The perks of war

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ParamedicPrepper
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The perks of war

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War and conflict is a very exciting time when it comes to medicine. One mans loss is another mans gain!
The conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan has allowed emergency trauma medicine to develop leaps and bounds. We have purpose built field dressings that are tried and tested. Tourniquets developed to stem blood loss in the horrific IED attacks. We now use these techniques and equipment on the streets of London to treat knife and gunshot victims and with great success. One mans loss is definetely anothers gain in this case.

If the SHTF then having these two simple items may save yours or a loved ones life! Worth their weight in gold.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... SEDd84VhXA

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... yiJ4ZvO0Tg
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Im only 1st aid trained so i dont have an extensive FAK but i think i'll be adding a couple of those bandages.. they make application so much easier with the teeth holding it it in place each wrap and the cup to apply direct pressure is genius :O
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I'm still carrying the old type first field dressing, mainly because I have a few knocking around. I've been tempted to get some quickclot, not tried it myself though.
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Bit of an old thread did my first aid at work requalification this week and the stuff above is now part of the 3 day first aid at work......

We got shown and taught the gauze

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J_memNCN0IY


And modern hemostatic dressings the Israeli and oeles type pressure dressing

Along with the correct application of CAT tourniquets



We also got shown this featuring animal testing so not all night be happy to watch:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LCSf5Asa8rc


Buy got told to go for gauze over powder due to ease of use in windy conditions and its harder to drop a roll of gauze
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Fantastic resources, and really pertinent to my current prepping focus - thank you!

This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oKM0ODuDe0 is one of the most useful 30 minute videos I've seen.
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A word of caution, if you haven't been trained properly on how to use a tourniquet please don't unless you feel it is absolutely life and death.

Used correctly tourniquets are a life saver, however, if they are used incorrectly the consequences can be very unpleasant, such as, permanent nerve damage, tissue death, blood clots, muscle injury, vascular injury and skin necrosis! :shock:
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Zunzuncito wrote:A word of caution, if you haven't been trained properly on how to use a tourniquet please don't unless you feel it is absolutely life and death.
I was thinking of getting one of those combat tourniquets - they seem a non-brainer given the high risk of the injury. Can I get all the info about using them properly from youtube? They seem simple in principle. Is there any information in particular that helps reduce the probability of the negatives you mention?
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Zunzuncito wrote:A word of caution, if you haven't been trained properly on how to use a tourniquet please don't unless you feel it is absolutely life and death.

Used correctly tourniquets are a life saver, however, if they are used incorrectly the consequences can be very unpleasant, such as, permanent nerve damage, tissue death, blood clots, muscle injury, vascular injury and skin necrosis! :shock:

We got told they were an absolute last resort after trying celox and hemostatic dressings (if available) and kneeling / standing on a wound for 5 mins or if you can't apply pressure in the case of traumatic amputation. And to apply them to a single bone section of limb about 5cm above any wound in the upper arm. Eg never on lower limbs due to the Tib and fib or radius and ulnar protecting the arteries and veins from pressure

And once on tightened to stop blood loss NEVER release it and note time on the tourniquet or patients head with a T on their as well

Hope I never need to
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sethorly wrote:
Zunzuncito wrote:A word of caution, if you haven't been trained properly on how to use a tourniquet please don't unless you feel it is absolutely life and death.
I was thinking of getting one of those combat tourniquets - they seem a non-brainer given the high risk of the injury. Can I get all the info about using them properly from youtube? They seem simple in principle. Is there any information in particular that helps reduce the probability of the negatives you mention?
YouTube is fine for some stuff but what I'd suggest is doing a proper FA course with someone who is qualified and knows what they are talking about that covers the use of tourniquets - which won't be the bog standard one day ones as it is more of a specialist skill. Using a tourniquet isn't something you should 'wing'.
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Got my updated first aid book today . well worth a read....

Titled first aid made easy..... I've included the ISBN numbers so if anyone wants to order it


And its uploaded them arse about face :oops: but you get the gist
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