Caches

[Bladerunner]

If you are stashing tins of food, don't forget a tin opener or a knife/multi tool with one included. I would practice too. It's all well and good saying I have a tin opener on my multi tool but they are not all that easy to use. Maybe stashing tins with the pull lid might be a good idea. Heinz soups have pull lids and are the best tasting in my opinion.

A wind up torch is an essential, batteries don't last forever. I have 4 or 5 that include a radio and are quite small. anything wind up is a bonus as you will eventually run out of batteries and most have a maximun shelf life of no more than 7 years. Unlikely that you would be lucky enough to purchase them the day after they were manufactured and the day before the solids hit the air conditioning.

There is no reason why you can't stash more than one drainpipe so I would go for the proper tarp as keeping dry is a must in the UK and being wet is a real moral drainer.

Be lucky

[Carrot Cruncher]

I wasn't really thinking of tins of food for myself. 2 or 3 tins would take up a fair bit of space, I was more thinking a few packet rice type things or boil in the bag stuff...stuff you could compress a bit. The wind up stuff is always good though

How about this CC bought one a while ago for my EDC bag, it comes packed in a small pouch it will easily fit inside your pipe cache.

http://www.surplusandadventure.com/shop ... 60959.html

I've heard mixed reports on those Andy, they look good for their primary purpose but a few people I have spoke to didn't like them. I haven't tried them myself so they might be ok as a makeshift Tarp....no eyelets though so you would have to go down the pebble route. If anyone isn't aware of them or how they are used there is a pdf here http://www.hmvf.co.uk/pdf/SHELTERS.pdf

It's an important area to get right though

[Carrot Cruncher]

Ok, an updated list (I think I have copied all the ideas from the posts), are we lacking in any areas ?
I've included alternatives that have been posted for various items as well

Any more ideas ....keep 'em coming

Shelter
Space Blanket / Space Shelter (poundland) / Tarp / MoD IPK
Poncho / pakamack/waterproofs
MOD Sleeping bag (Heavy guage Poly, packs flat)

Heat/Cooking
Hexi stove
Small Mess tin / Trangia cook pots / Crusader "type" Cup (the proper Crusader may be too big to fit but there are smaller alternatives)
Spork
Matches/Lighter/Flint and striker
Tinder Cards / Vaseline Balls

Water/Drinks
Puritabs
Milbank Bag
Brew kit - Tea Bags/Coffee/Sugar/Powdered Milk

Hygiene/First Aid
Wet wipes / "Travel" loo roll
Hand sanitizer
First Aid Kit (or just the essentials)
Anti Histamines

Hunting / Trapping
Fishing Line, hooks etc
Snare Wire
Catapult


Food
Packet Rice / Boil in bag meals / Tinned Food
Biscuits
Chocolate

Tools
Knife
Multi tool
Folding Saw

Light
Torch - wind up
Light sticks

Navigation
Local Area Map
Compass
Pencils

Assorted
Paracord
Duct tape
Auminium foil
Dessicant
Collins Gem SAS Manual
Fold up rucksack (poundland)
Socks
Multi-band radio / Wind-up Radio

[itsybitsy]

LOO ROLL!!!
Antihistamine (speaking as one who suffers from hay fever )

[Carrot Cruncher]

Could use the wetwipes, might save on space

Andrex do a roll for travellers that has no central core so packs down small, i'll add it next to the wetwipes

[smileyt]

I wasn't really thinking of tins of food for myself. 2 or 3 tins would take up a fair bit of space, I was more thinking a few packet rice type things or boil in the bag stuff...stuff you could compress a bit. The wind up stuff is always good though

How about this CC bought one a while ago for my EDC bag, it comes packed in a small pouch it will easily fit inside your pipe cache.

http://www.surplusandadventure.com/shop ... 60959.html

I've heard mixed reports on those Andy, they look good for their primary purpose but a few people I have spoke to didn't like them. I haven't tried them myself so they might be ok as a makeshift Tarp....no eyelets though so you would have to go down the pebble route. If anyone isn't aware of them or how they are used there is a pdf here http://www.hmvf.co.uk/pdf/SHELTERS.pdf

It's an important area to get right though

You could get tarp clamps: http://www.clasohlson.co.uk/Product/Pro ... =161087133

Unfortunately clas ohlson don't do online ordering but there is a store in Manchester so if anyone wants them, I'd be willing to get them for you and send them on. Postage wouldn't be much as they are very light. Or you might be able to find something similar elsewhere?

[Carrot Cruncher]

Thanks Smiley

What about breaking down the First Aid kit to some basic essentials, remembering space is limited

So far we have

scissors
Pain killers
anti-histamines
brandy
suture kit
antibiotics
Immodium
Laxative
Rehydration powder

Back on the main list it may be worth adding a bag of nuts or BB's as ammo for the catapult, some lures etc for the fishing, also maybe some speed hooks and or possibly the Yo-Yo auto reels

[Carrot Cruncher]

One of these first aid kits might be handy, they are in a small pack (i have one in my BoB) so would fit the pipe, available from here http://www.lakelandbushcraft.co.uk/acat ... _Kits.html . The chap who runs lakeland has been around of prepping forums for a few years.

Any more ideas welcome

Lifesystems Trek First Aid Kit
Ref: LM002


Price: £11.95 (Including VAT at 20%) The Trek First Aid Kit is an excellent, compact kit for dealing with small accidents. Treatment for cuts, grazes, blisters and other minor injuries is important in preventing infection and this pack provides the basic first aid items.

Kit Contains:
Primary care leaflet
Small low-adherent dressing
Woven bandage & vinyl gloves
Small crepe bandage
Fabric plasters
Micropore tape & gauze swabs
Antiseptic cream
Antiseptic wipes
Scissors & tweezers
Safety pins

Pack Specification:
150D, PU coated ripstop fabric
Belt-loop attachment
Waterproof zip
Easy access

[beefy0978]

Could use the wetwipes, might save on space

Andrex do a roll for travellers that has no central core so packs down small, i'll add it next to the wetwipes

Tesco wet wipes - 18p per pack!!! Nearly always sell out straight away though so keep your eyes open...

[janso]

http://bruce-conway.com/noahsarchives/n ... 31-29A.pdf


This seems quite apt people... CC, found it on that link for Noahs ark? Good article on caches, never thought of one underwater before!!