Caches

[Carrot Cruncher]

Cheers Janso...I never noticed that when I put the link up, I think I will give the underwater one a miss

Looks like that is about it for the ideas , I will get hold of a bit of pipe and give the packing a trial run. I guess the smaller we can have the pipe the less we have to bury.

[the-gnole]

On the subject of "Speed hooks and Yo-yo reels" it might be worth pointing out that if you think you can go and try them out on UK inland waterways it could lead to some serious consequences. However, just by following a few simple rules you won't get into trouble.

I received the following guidance from the Environment Agency last year.

The quick response is that it would be illegal to use the yo yo reel as marketed as it would be a set line which is not a legal instrument under the salmon and freshwater fisheries act.

The speed hook would also fall foul of the law for similar reasons.

However, if you attached the rig to a rod then it could be a legal instrument that you would need a rod licence to legally use - except in Thames Region where the use of an automatic hooking device within it would contravene regional byelaws.

One other point is that they are designed as survival gear and one of their big selling points is that it can be left whilst you go do something else. This would also be in contravention of our byelaws as no rod is allowed to be left unattended.

I hope this helps. Please give me a call if you want to discuss this further.One other thing. You could legally sell these in this country but as discussed above could not legally use them.

Kind regards

Heidi
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Heidi Stone
Fisheries Policy Manager

You will of course need a UK inland rod licence as well.

The consequences of getting caught - usually just a fine and a criminal record, but they do have powers that could see your method of getting to the site being taken, ie your car if that is what you took with you.

Of course the laws are no doubt different "north of the borders"

[Dogfood]

These containers make excellent cache containers they used to hold mortar bombs and have a rubber seal on them, you can get them from army surplus supplies i guess , I happened to have this one already and would like more

[nickdutch]

I may have to ignore the issue of caches until I have enough stuff to store in one. I am also short of a BOL, BOV and many other bug out necessities.

Maybe playing Gorgonite in the local woods would be a good policy.

[Ian]

I have surplus to requirements most of the bits for a pipe cache.

3' of 4" ID thick walled soil pipe.
Watertight screw on access plug.
Glue in socket plug.
One double socket.

All it needs is another double socket (from a plumbers merchant £7) and solvent welding together, which I can do if needed.

I bought enough materials to make three 3' caches because the pipe came as a single 10' length and mucked up a collar and have never got around to buying another.

Any offers? I guess it would have to be picked up because of its size.

[Ian]

To bury your pipe cache the easiest is to beg, borrow, buy or hire a post auger a bit like:

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Hand+To ... 669/p89523

Drill your hole and bury the tube end on 2-3" under the surface enough that a drought will not show a 'crop mark' where it is, wrapped inside two layers of polythene sheet or tubing.

When you need to recover you can dig down the few inches necessary to get a grip and pull the tube up and out as one layer of polythene will slide on the other.

If you wish to leave the tube in situ you need a plug (or say your tarp) inside at the bottom with a rope on. So you may dig down, unscrew the cap and then pull the plug up, pushing out the contents as it comes. Your arms are not long enough to reach the bottom otherwise. You can guess how I discovered this.

[Cougar]

Now have visions of you in a field with your arm stuck down a pipe calling desperately for a little help as it begins to get dark. Am I warm?

[i_am_jim]

how do you protect your cache from the effects of freezing over winter, surely this will affect what you can/cannot stash?. as any bottles of liquids or cans would burst and ruin the rest of the cache. is this correct? any ideas?.

[the-gnole]

how do you protect your cache from the effects of freezing over winter, surely this will affect what you can/cannot stash?. as any bottles of liquids or cans would burst and ruin the rest of the cache. is this correct? any ideas?.

It depends on depth of burial and insulation.

If you bury your cache right down to 30"/750mm it is unlikely to freeze in the UK.

[i_am_jim]

cheers dude.