Caught unawares

[Yorkshire Andy]

@Yorkshire Andy

Is there a hammer/window release on every window or just a designated emergency window?

4 windows per carriage today on a 225

[Yorkshire Andy]

@Yorkshire Andy

Is there a hammer/window release on every window or just a designated emergency window?

4 windows per carriage today on a 225


Bit out of focus but smash glass pull red lever then push door..


This window is pull release to open type on the green box slide access window open snapping tamper tiewrap (like fire extinguisher seal) this sets off a alarm.... Then pull toggle and window drops out (might need a shove)

[Briggs 2.0]

@Yorkshire Andy

Is there a hammer/window release on every window or just a designated emergency window?

4 windows per carriage today on a 225

Hmmm, I'm just a closet train-spotter but I am pretty sure a Mk 4 225 carriage has sixteen windows and as Yorkshire Andy just confirmed, only four are emergency escape routes. Eighty eight seated passengers. Call me paranoid but I don't like those odds, hence having something capable of breaking toughened glass in my EDC should the need arise.

[Yorkshire Andy]

@Yorkshire Andy

Is there a hammer/window release on every window or just a designated emergency window?

4 windows per carriage today on a 225

Hmmm, I'm just a closet train-spotter but I am pretty sure a Mk 4 225 carriage has sixteen windows and as Yorkshire Andy just confirmed, only four are emergency escape routes. Eighty eight seated passengers. Call me paranoid but I don't like those odds, hence having something capable of breaking toughened glass in my EDC should the need arise.

4 windows 4 doors 1 or 2 in to connecting doors 4 hammers per carriage and 1 6l afff extinguisher a tool box and fak aka ambulance box

What I want to know is how do you break the glass to get the glass hammer out


Joking aside on a former "sprinter" train earlier many of the vestibule's windows were laminated! No way are you going to break them with a life hammer.... (Look at the glass they are etched with what it is )


As a reminder

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-33671351

[Hamradioop]

as a former railwayman I would not advise leaving the train for the track without directions from Rail staff. You could easily jump down into the path of an oncoming train. At one time the life hammers were removed from the Trains due to theft and criminal Damage. the were protected by sugar glass as was the FAK and Crash equipment cupboard. I have been away from the railway for 6 years so I am out of date on the safety equipment.

[Chairmouse]

I would think that it would depend on the situation you find yourself in, and what you can see from the window of the train. Do you know the route the train tracks follow. Do they stay out of built up areas, running through mostly wooded, folliate cuttings, etc. And do you feel comfortable, and confident enough to walk the 20 miles home.

[Bubbles]

To be fair the escape, unless the disaster is obviously life threatening, will pass mundanely to most regular train users, they are use to delays and faults, so it gives you a minute or two to assess the situation. The trek would be easy spring to autumn but winter time you need to look at exposure. The next Biggy is navigation, you have broken down in "giggleton" is it North, South, East or west of it? Where is giggleton in relation to main supply routes and most important your goal.
Have you got the kit to navigate? Do you need to detour fir additional supplies?

One method I like it group protection mentality, if you are a useful person people won't risk you so they will willingly help you by offering skills and supplies just so you will protect them in turn.
It pays to be a leader, stronger, medic, specialist. (Sometimes looking the part helps)

As for the train don't ever rush into situations just because there's no power doesn't mean an EMP . Train companies are poor at best so don't hear a band and think WW3 it's about situational awareness.

For you a water bottle kept as full as possible, a jacket and the right mentality will be all you really need for that scenario I feel. Just keep you physical fitness up and wear the right footwear.

Final thought - there's a lot of train geeks on here. Not an insult just an observation - good job on the info collection.

[Yorkshire Andy]

I remember going to rescue a family member when this happened
http://www.minsterfm.com/news/local/148 ... ost-early/

Lucky my car was fully kitted for winter as many couldn't get their car up the hills ended up fetching another couple back to our town who live local as they were also stranded who my relative had befriended

[Brambles]

@Yorkshire Andy

Is there a hammer/window release on every window or just a designated emergency window?

4 windows per carriage today on a 225

Hmmm, I'm just a closet train-spotter but I am pretty sure a Mk 4 225 carriage has sixteen windows and as Yorkshire Andy just confirmed, only four are emergency escape routes. Eighty eight seated passengers. Call me paranoid but I don't like those odds, hence having something capable of breaking toughened glass in my EDC should the need arise.

What exactly do you carry? I use public transport a lot and would like to have a better exit strategy than the ones offered by the bus and train builders.