EMPs and Cars

[poppypiesdad]

[SkyWatcher]

No shipping containers have a wooden floor , so you would need to go to the bother of seam welding a steel floor into the container to make it totally enclosed , but the doors on a container are usually against rubber seals ( to prevent the weather comming in ) so you would need to alter the doors as well , or weld new metal doors inside it as well.

J

Sorry J but not entirely true! I work offshore and I've never seen a container with a wooden floor out there, may be an onshore thing. Floors are always steel. Might be the case that you could rip up the wood to find the metal floor underneath as the container wouldn't be structurally safe without it. You are correct though about the rubber seals though, so half a point for that lol

[poppypiesdad]

Sorry m8 but your standard shipping container has a wooden floor , in your spare time read up a bit more , or here's a video to watch , you do know that containers are only load bearing along the bottom runners and the corner posts , use the seach button , it all on here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7l6AQN1KV0

to save time fast forward to 6:20

or here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzWAj_gea7o


And if i need anyone to mark my work , i'll find someone with more knowledge, cheers for the offer

offshore shipping containers are made with a metal floor , but well they are specialist and second hand ones will be hard to come by

http://www.oegoffshore.com/sub-category ... ntainers_2

j

[SkyWatcher]

Made in China, need i say more? Like I already said, the ones used offshore all have metal floors. And no, second hand ones aren't hard to come by atall, in fact there's a guy sells and hires out new and second hand ones, with the metal floor, only a mile or so from here. Try ASCO in Aberdeen or Peterhead, I'm sure they would be quite happy to sell off their old ones that are damaged or out of cert.

[Laziji]

Love the thread LMAO

Oh well............it just underlines how screwed we would be if the lights went off
Thanks for the list of electricals btw

A bicycle sounds more manageable

Cheers All

[desertman]

I have looked into this yonks ago - when I was one of the original solar anomaly group set up in 1999 one of the issues we looked at was a EMP caused by a major X class CME event - similar to a nuke air burst etc - I wrote an article to add to my 'Are You prepared for a 'Jericho-tytpe Event?' '' which looked at faraday cages etc.
Basically, while in essence one could say that a vehicle is a faraday cage in itself, when the crunch comes you are screwed, forget any vehicle running even pre computer digi ones (Ever read 'One second After? - read it excellent read)
Forget any vehicles and stick to the bicycle - may be we could save the odd motor road bike - stick that in home made faraday cage!!

Anyhoo here is my article http://www.ambilacuk.com/jericho/5emp.html

[poppypiesdad]

Horses and carts , or steam power , open the pits, start digging the coal.

J

[preppingsu]

http://www.futurescience.com/emp/EMP-myths.html

Cars dying: Some say that all vehicles traveling will come to a halt, with all modern vehicles damaged because of their use of modern electronics (and one movie even had a bulk, non-electronic part dying). Most likely there will be some vehicles affected, but probably just a small fraction of them (although this could create traffic jams in large cities). A car does not have very long cabling to act as antennas, and there is some protection from metallic construction. As non-metallic materials are used more and more in the future to decrease weight and increase fuel efficiency, this advantage may disappear.

Myth: Severe solar storms can damage automobiles and trucks. Fact: Solar storms, no matter how severe, will not damage vehicles. This is a myth that has arisen in the past few years, and that just will not go away. (If you have an electric car, and it is plugged in to the electrical grid for charging, it is conceivable, though very unlikely, that it could be damaged.) A nuclear EMP can damage automobiles through the E1 component, which is not present on the surface of the Earth during a solar storm.

[unsure]

which ever way you choose to look at it , the more simple the engine is to run , the easier is it to fix . so long as you have fuel and a spark then any half competent mechanic or good diy er can get it to run . same for a diesel engine , so long as you have fuel and it turns over ok again it`ll run .
so really the ideal BOV or post event vehicle SHOULD have no ecu or electric injectors , ive seen newish cars fail to start or run baddly because the egr valve is blocked or the air flow meter is faulty .
personally i tend to stick to my old land rover because of the lack of electric parts to go wrong on it .

[badgersden]

interesting thread i can only see a few major problems if we did have emp and it did destroy electrical components and you manage to get your old motor running or your newer motor was in a faraday cage how long do you think it will take before someone or people take it from you or worse follow you back to your bug in or bug out location and then takes everything you have and god knows what else to you,
The noise alone from a car will be heard for miles around attracting a lot of attention and people looking for you.
my real question is what are you going to do with a car without attracting lots of unwelcome attention?