Penlight and 12v power generator

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Re: Penlight and 12v power generator

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Thanks for the pointers :) After doing some research I think I will go for a pure sine wave inverter rather than the modified sine wave inverter. Although it costs more, it will work with a wider range of appliances.

As for the comments about amps, although I plan to use a lesser powered inverter I suspect it can be just as dangerous. Warning in mind, I will take extra care with the wiring on this one.
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Re: Penlight and 12v power generator

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@Auxiliary

Sorry for not keeping up on this thread. I'm glad you've found the clansman charger and batteries useful and some of the other regulars offered advice on inverters. I use a non sine wave because I just recharge basic batteries but sine wave is the better option as others have said.

Yes, the two outputs on the top of the charger produce 24v but only if you turn the handle at the right rpm, and the light glows. It's better to take a feed from the attached battery as that's a more stable 24v. I'm on the lookout for a 24v to 12v inverter with USB outputs to complete my emergency power back up for my phones torches and radios.
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Try somewhere like HGV direct they should do 24 to 12v regulators

Those led inspection lights are great BTW :-)


Oh and now i have got one I see them coming up in aldi :shock:
https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/t ... tion-lamp/
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Not cheap but should be reliable some cheap adaptors are a liability its got a 10a capability


http://www.hgvdirect.co.uk/catalog/volt ... 00478.html

See the reviews for this lol
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B001S05 ... ot_redir=1
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Yorkshire Andy wrote:Try somewhere like HGV direct they should do 24 to 12v regulators

Those led inspection lights are great BTW :-)


Oh and now i have got one I see them coming up in aldi :shock:
https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/t ... tion-lamp/
Aldi - £3 !??!

I thought they were cheap for a fiver. Now there's no excuse not to have half a dozen of these dotted about the house and in day-packs. I haven't used it a great deal so I can't comment on the long term performance but for £3 you can't match the light output from a pen sized torch. I'll be getting some more!
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Briggs could i ask for a repost of the images of your recharger? Im going to give one a go, i already have an inverter knocking around but im not strong on my electrical knowledge so i need to do a straight copy for the rest :)

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excellent thread here, thanks Briggs, I'm looking carefully on how to put this together, seems quite a robust little set up..
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Memphis wrote:Briggs could i ask for a repost of the images of your recharger? Im going to give one a go, i already have an inverter knocking around but im not strong on my electrical knowledge so i need to do a straight copy for the rest :)

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I'd forget the inverter with a small battery and charger... (I have a inverter and it gobbles power)

Your better off with 12v/24v appliances and chargers IMO (far less loss ime)
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See what i mean? Not too savvy... Ill get it all and see what i can charge from it once i get that far.

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Think of the charger as a tap

the battery a bath tub which will be damaged if you let it get below half full....

and the load / inverter as one of those pop up drain plugs....


Imagine the bath holds 100l

The tap can put 5l an hour back in

And your inverter running your phone charger is draining 20l an hour out...

In 2.5 hours your bath is half empty you must top it back up. It will take 10 hours to refill the bath

But a 12v car phone charger is only taking 2l an hour out for example... Gives you a 25 hour run time


Now replace litres with amps and that's the basic principle of power supplies from a battery banks....

A 100ah battery has double the capacity of a 10ah battery

Its a lot more complex than that if you read up further but that's the basics in a nut shell

Discharge a battery quickly it isn't as efficient as one been slowly discharged most leisure batteries have a ratings plate showing this

Lead acid batteries like car / caravan batteries or SLA (sealed lead acid) should never be taken below 50 % charge and recharged as soon as possible...

See here http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/


http://www.leisurebatteries.net

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... HhviLhsOjw
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong ;)

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