As for the comments about amps, although I plan to use a lesser powered inverter I suspect it can be just as dangerous. Warning in mind, I will take extra care with the wiring on this one.
Penlight and 12v power generator
Re: Penlight and 12v power generator
Thanks for the pointers
After doing some research I think I will go for a pure sine wave inverter rather than the modified sine wave inverter. Although it costs more, it will work with a wider range of appliances.
As for the comments about amps, although I plan to use a lesser powered inverter I suspect it can be just as dangerous. Warning in mind, I will take extra care with the wiring on this one.
As for the comments about amps, although I plan to use a lesser powered inverter I suspect it can be just as dangerous. Warning in mind, I will take extra care with the wiring on this one.
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Re: Penlight and 12v power generator
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Sorry for not keeping up on this thread. I'm glad you've found the clansman charger and batteries useful and some of the other regulars offered advice on inverters. I use a non sine wave because I just recharge basic batteries but sine wave is the better option as others have said.
Yes, the two outputs on the top of the charger produce 24v but only if you turn the handle at the right rpm, and the light glows. It's better to take a feed from the attached battery as that's a more stable 24v. I'm on the lookout for a 24v to 12v inverter with USB outputs to complete my emergency power back up for my phones torches and radios.
Sorry for not keeping up on this thread. I'm glad you've found the clansman charger and batteries useful and some of the other regulars offered advice on inverters. I use a non sine wave because I just recharge basic batteries but sine wave is the better option as others have said.
Yes, the two outputs on the top of the charger produce 24v but only if you turn the handle at the right rpm, and the light glows. It's better to take a feed from the attached battery as that's a more stable 24v. I'm on the lookout for a 24v to 12v inverter with USB outputs to complete my emergency power back up for my phones torches and radios.
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Re: Penlight and 12v power generator
Try somewhere like HGV direct they should do 24 to 12v regulators
Those led inspection lights are great BTW
Oh and now i have got one I see them coming up in aldi
https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/t ... tion-lamp/
Those led inspection lights are great BTW
Oh and now i have got one I see them coming up in aldi
https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/t ... tion-lamp/
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong 
Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
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Re: Penlight and 12v power generator
Not cheap but should be reliable some cheap adaptors are a liability its got a 10a capability
http://www.hgvdirect.co.uk/catalog/volt ... 00478.html
See the reviews for this lol
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B001S05 ... ot_redir=1
http://www.hgvdirect.co.uk/catalog/volt ... 00478.html
See the reviews for this lol
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B001S05 ... ot_redir=1
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong 
Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
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Re: Penlight and 12v power generator
Aldi - £3 !??!Yorkshire Andy wrote:Try somewhere like HGV direct they should do 24 to 12v regulators
Those led inspection lights are great BTW![]()
Oh and now i have got one I see them coming up in aldi![]()
https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/t ... tion-lamp/
I thought they were cheap for a fiver. Now there's no excuse not to have half a dozen of these dotted about the house and in day-packs. I haven't used it a great deal so I can't comment on the long term performance but for £3 you can't match the light output from a pen sized torch. I'll be getting some more!
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Re: Penlight and 12v power generator
excellent thread here, thanks Briggs, I'm looking carefully on how to put this together, seems quite a robust little set up..
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Memphis wrote:Briggs could i ask for a repost of the images of your recharger? Im going to give one a go, i already have an inverter knocking around but im not strong on my electrical knowledge so i need to do a straight copy for the rest
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I'd forget the inverter with a small battery and charger... (I have a inverter and it gobbles power)
Your better off with 12v/24v appliances and chargers IMO (far less loss ime)
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Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Re: Penlight and 12v power generator
See what i mean? Not too savvy... Ill get it all and see what i can charge from it once i get that far.
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Re: Penlight and 12v power generator
Think of the charger as a tap
the battery a bath tub which will be damaged if you let it get below half full....
and the load / inverter as one of those pop up drain plugs....
Imagine the bath holds 100l
The tap can put 5l an hour back in
And your inverter running your phone charger is draining 20l an hour out...
In 2.5 hours your bath is half empty you must top it back up. It will take 10 hours to refill the bath
But a 12v car phone charger is only taking 2l an hour out for example... Gives you a 25 hour run time
Now replace litres with amps and that's the basic principle of power supplies from a battery banks....
A 100ah battery has double the capacity of a 10ah battery
Its a lot more complex than that if you read up further but that's the basics in a nut shell
Discharge a battery quickly it isn't as efficient as one been slowly discharged most leisure batteries have a ratings plate showing this
Lead acid batteries like car / caravan batteries or SLA (sealed lead acid) should never be taken below 50 % charge and recharged as soon as possible...
See here http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/
http://www.leisurebatteries.net
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... HhviLhsOjw
the battery a bath tub which will be damaged if you let it get below half full....
and the load / inverter as one of those pop up drain plugs....
Imagine the bath holds 100l
The tap can put 5l an hour back in
And your inverter running your phone charger is draining 20l an hour out...
In 2.5 hours your bath is half empty you must top it back up. It will take 10 hours to refill the bath
But a 12v car phone charger is only taking 2l an hour out for example... Gives you a 25 hour run time
Now replace litres with amps and that's the basic principle of power supplies from a battery banks....
A 100ah battery has double the capacity of a 10ah battery
Its a lot more complex than that if you read up further but that's the basics in a nut shell
Discharge a battery quickly it isn't as efficient as one been slowly discharged most leisure batteries have a ratings plate showing this
Lead acid batteries like car / caravan batteries or SLA (sealed lead acid) should never be taken below 50 % charge and recharged as soon as possible...
See here http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/
http://www.leisurebatteries.net
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... HhviLhsOjw
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong 
Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine