Winter bug out kit (A bit on the heavy side)

[Flippertyjibbet]

My preferred option would be to remain at home as I would hate to go and feel that bugging out would only be a short term action unless given no other choice. This is the kit that is in a 'ready to go' state.
I have a lot of other kit that could be used in specific situations, however I have chosen not to list this focusing on my winter grab and go.
I feel that I might be heavy on first aid and lighting. Also the sleeping bag is quite bulky but having had this for many years without it ever letting me down it is a bit of a comfort item.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.


Sharps
Cold steel special forces shovel
Wire saw
Homemade fixed blade
Neck knife
Mora light my fire knife
Small multi tool
Bahco Laplander

Shelter
Basha
Polish army lavvu tent made from two ponchos
Ground sheet tarp.


Fire
Full size fero rod
Coil of magnesium ribbon (fire starting and for DIY flares)
waterproof matches
Magnesium fire starter
4 x lighters
6 x long life candles

Food and water
Swedish army cook set
Mini can opener
Water purification Tabs
Drink safe systems water bottle = spare filter
Camelback
5 Days Homemade MRE's
Multi vitamins and minerals (30 day supply)
Crusader Water bottle, steel cup.
Multiple coffee sachets
Spork


Protection
vogmask re-usable n95/n99 particle mask

Light
Cree 300 lumen micro torch
Cree extendable 200 lumen torch (extends into baton)
Energiser head torch
Cree 1200 lumen head torch
Wind and solar up Torch

Other
Lock pick set
2 x Fall arrest locking karabiner
2 x Whistle
sewing kit
Solar battery charger
Silva compass
OS Maps
Tactical rigger belt (CQB/Emergency Rescue)
Kevlar gloves
30ft climbing rope
50ft paracord
hand Sanitizer
Anti Bacterial wipes
Toilet Paper
Spare socks and underwear


Sleep system
MOD Gore-Tex bivi bag
Ajungilak compact super sleeping bag
Fleece sleeping bag liner (will be taking this out soon as weather improoving)
Self inflating mattress

Ifak
J Collis browns mixture (look it up)
Codeine
Gluco tabs
Aspirin
Caffeine tabs
Ibuprofen
6 x Dioralyte
Imodium
2 x Israeli bandages
2 x Quick clot
2 x celox bandages
Steri strips
Moleskin
Alcohol swabs
Forceps
4 x Gloves (pairs)
No 8 Dressing
No 9 Dressing
No 16 Eye Pad
Reliance Finger Bandage
Crepe Bandage 7.5cm x 4.5m
Crepe Bandage 10cm x 4.5m
Dressing 5cm x 5cm
Dressing 10cm x 10cm
Assorted Wash proof Plasters
Triangular Bandage
Fabric Relitape
Survival Blanket
Rebreath Mouth Shield with Valve
3 x Eye Wash Pods
Tubular Bandage D
Tubular Bandage E
First Aid Scissors
Alcohol swabs (lots)
Iodine
Potassium Iodide
Foot powder

Food gathering
Fishing kit
Yoyo
Snare wire plus a couple of made up snares
4 x Rat traps can also make perimeter alarms

Coms

Samsung B100 Mobile (Had this for years, old fashioned but damn near bomb proof, can also charge from solar battery charger).
Solar & Wind up Radio
(Currently looking into other items)


Walking staff (DIY job, design sized to act as pole for lavu tent) includes-
compass
fero rod
snare wire
fishing kit
tracking markers
30ft para cord
Leather grip that can be used as a sling pouch

[ForgeCorvus]

I understand that this is a winter kit and therefore likely to be on the heavy side.
But why have you three different shelter systems?
The Lavvu is a lot of fun,but unless you're hot-tenting the canvas construction is going to be kicking your arse..... This is a Bug-out kit not a winter camping or INCH setup isn't it?
I don't think a basha is adequate for winter use and I don't see how anyone can use a bivvybag for anything (head out and you get wet, head in you get wet in a different way).... Unless you're using the bivvy as an extra shell layer, in which case why not get a better bag ?

You may be tool heavy as well.
Three fixed blades as well as your MT and why have a crappy wiresaw when you have a laplander.
Whats the shovel for? If its your chopper you'd do better with a real axe/hatchet/'hawk and a trowel for digging cat-holes and firepits.

Why climbing gear and how much does the rope alone weigh ?

You're right about having a lot of lights. I'd keep the wind-up, the head torch and one other (assuming that one of the others uses the same batteries as the head torch)

I'd add a Milbank bag to prefilter the water (so your filters last longer)

[rik_uk3]

My preferred option would be to remain at home as I would hate to go and feel that bugging out would only be a short term action unless given no other choice. This is the kit that is in a 'ready to go' state.
I have a lot of other kit that could be used in specific situations, however I have chosen not to list this focusing on my winter grab and go.
I feel that I might be heavy on first aid and lighting. Also the sleeping bag is quite bulky but having had this for many years without it ever letting me down it is a bit of a comfort item.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.


Sharps
Cold steel special forces shovel
Wire saw
Homemade fixed blade
Neck knife
Mora light my fire knife
Small multi tool
Bahco Laplander

Shelter
Basha
Polish army lavvu tent made from two ponchos
Ground sheet tarp.


Fire
Full size fero rod
Coil of magnesium ribbon (fire starting and for DIY flares)
waterproof matches
Magnesium fire starter
4 x lighters
6 x long life candles

Food and water
Swedish army cook set
Mini can opener
Water purification Tabs
Drink safe systems water bottle = spare filter
Camelback
5 Days Homemade MRE's
Multi vitamins and minerals (30 day supply)
Crusader Water bottle, steel cup.
Multiple coffee sachets
Spork


Protection
vogmask re-usable n95/n99 particle mask

Light
Cree 300 lumen micro torch
Cree extendable 200 lumen torch (extends into baton)
Energiser head torch
Cree 1200 lumen head torch
Wind and solar up Torch

Other
Lock pick set
2 x Fall arrest locking karabiner
2 x Whistle
sewing kit
Solar battery charger
Silva compass
OS Maps
Tactical rigger belt (CQB/Emergency Rescue)
Kevlar gloves
30ft climbing rope
50ft paracord
hand Sanitizer
Anti Bacterial wipes
Toilet Paper
Spare socks and underwear


Sleep system
MOD Gore-Tex bivi bag
Ajungilak compact super sleeping bag
Fleece sleeping bag liner (will be taking this out soon as weather improoving)
Self inflating mattress

Ifak
J Collis browns mixture (look it up)
Codeine
Gluco tabs
Aspirin
Caffeine tabs
Ibuprofen
6 x Dioralyte
Imodium
2 x Israeli bandages
2 x Quick clot
2 x celox bandages
Steri strips
Moleskin
Alcohol swabs
Forceps
4 x Gloves (pairs)
No 8 Dressing
No 9 Dressing
No 16 Eye Pad
Reliance Finger Bandage
Crepe Bandage 7.5cm x 4.5m
Crepe Bandage 10cm x 4.5m
Dressing 5cm x 5cm
Dressing 10cm x 10cm
Assorted Wash proof Plasters
Triangular Bandage
Fabric Relitape
Survival Blanket
Rebreath Mouth Shield with Valve
3 x Eye Wash Pods
Tubular Bandage D
Tubular Bandage E
First Aid Scissors
Alcohol swabs (lots)
Iodine
Potassium Iodide
Foot powder

Food gathering
Fishing kit
Yoyo
Snare wire plus a couple of made up snares
4 x Rat traps can also make perimeter alarms

Coms

Samsung B100 Mobile (Had this for years, old fashioned but damn near bomb proof, can also charge from solar battery charger).
Solar & Wind up Radio
(Currently looking into other items)


Walking staff (DIY job, design sized to act as pole for lavu tent) includes-
compass
fero rod
snare wire
fishing kit
tracking markers
30ft para cord
Leather grip that can be used as a sling pouch

You have a Laplander so dump the wire saw (they're crap anyway), a fixed blade and a multitool is enough blades. Dump the poncho tent, they are small but heavy, pick up a little dome tent (even a B&M £10 job). You can roll up 2 or 3 litre pop bottles and they last well and weigh next to nothing. You don't need five light sources, take a head torch and hand torch, dump the light sticks they are useless after you've used them so waste of pack space. I'd prefer a real Trangia (with kettle) over the army abominations but thats personal choice and I hate them.

[Flippertyjibbet]

Cheers ForgeCorvus and Rik!

Your probably right regarding the shelter situation, have had the Lavvu for a while and am probably overly attached, have made up a small wood burner but this really would be overkill for a short term bag.

Regards the bivi, basha, bag set up, I have used this many times without bother, put the bash up first then set up underneath, have done this at all times of year, so will stick with this rather than a tent.

Re the shovel, this is something I would most definitely keep. I do have a couple of axes, however this kit is for short term use and I feel the shovel has a few advantages: It can be used for digging and chopping, while also available as a potential self defence item, with a razor edge, that can be carried openly without causing alarm to others.

The rope probably is overkill and just habit to be honest, will probably move this over to the vehicle kit.

Will drop the mora for now, but will keep the wire saw. I know these are not great, but is handy to have as a back up and can be used as an extra snare for little weight.

As for torches will drop the large cree and a head torch and for the moment and will keep on with the cook set as it gives some flexibility, ability to make a small fire inside the shield should fuel be scarce, plus you can boil water and cook simultaneously.

[ForgeCorvus]

Regards the bivi, basha, bag set up, I have used this many times without bother, put the bash up first then set up underneath, have done this at all times of year, so will stick with this rather than a tent.

So, you bivvy under a fly tarp. That eliminates the main drawback with the tarp and the totally different problem of a bivvy.
I'd rather have a tent, but them I'm a BOF

Re the shovel, this is something I would most definitely keep. I do have a couple of axes, however this kit is for short term use and I feel the shovel has a few advantages: It can be used for digging and chopping, while also available as a potential self defence item, with a razor edge, that can be carried openly without causing alarm to others.

I've not tried to do any digging with the Spez, but I'm not in the habit of using an E-tool. How is it as a spade?

The rope probably is overkill and just habit to be honest, will probably move this over to the vehicle kit.

I know what you mean, humans tend to be set in their ways

Will drop the mora for now, but will keep the wire saw. I know these are not great, but is handy to have as a back up and can be used as an extra snare for little weight.

You kit, your rules

.... and will keep on with the cook set as it gives some flexibility, ability to make a small fire inside the shield should fuel be scarce, plus you can boil water and cook simultaneously.

For the record, I like the SAT and if I could find a SS version at a reasonable price (read 'rocking-horse poo') I'd have one..... But if I can't Bug In I'll be needing either a Sister-Bag or an INCH

[rik_uk3]

Honestly, the wire saws are poo poo, just take an extra bit of snare wire but take lots. A good chum of mine is a great tracker and catcher but even in a good area and with his skills, setting 20 snares may give him a big and fat zero in terms of bunnies caught, other days he may get 10 but you need to put a lot down, two or three is no good really.

Tarps are OK but in winter a tent wins hands down. It will keep you dry, trap body heat and keep the wind off you and give your clothing a chance of drying out.

For me a tarp is a bit of a fine weather indulgence (just my view) and a last resort in winter.

http://www.clasohlson.com/uk/Asaklitt-S ... ve/34-3320
More compact than the dreaded Swedish Army setup, faster 'bloom' on the burner, heats water and food quicker and you can use the pans over an open fire.

[Darktide]

In your 'ready to go state', is this all in a rucksack?

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