My Stealth Permanent Camp/Bug Out Location.

[lonewolf]

wow this thread has gone off topic, still the same boring old farts thinking they no it all!

who does actually know it all?

Clearly not you

exactly

[Plymtom]

wow this thread has gone off topic, still the same boring old farts thinking they no it all!

who does actually know it all?

Well I could indeed be a boring old fart, but don't go thinking that I think I know it all, I'm here to evolve my opinions, learn and adapt my mind set, my point of view is dependent on input and the ability to look at anything from differing angles, and I can learn something from everyone, so instead of insulting everyone bring us back on topic, how's the den doing?

[lonewolf]

not really bothered what some young squirt thinks of me, I've been doing this for a few years now, and I know I've got my plans and priorities right. just cos some people don't agree with that I think or do is no reason for me to change at this stage, there are lots of people out there that believe "this or that" will never happen and at the very best they are only paying lip service to the subject, that is until the next "cool" thing that comes next, then they'll be off, meanwhile I'm still plugging along and "doing it my way"

[Vespa]

wow this thread has gone off topic, still the same boring old farts thinking they no it all!

who does actually know it all?

I don't really think there's a problem with threads going off topic as such, some of the best threads I've read on this site have morphed from their original post, it's a natural process, like a conversation. As long as they are not deliberately hijacked or trolled.

I don't have an answer to stage four, except maybe to change the shade of grey I wear to match the new rulers.

[J23]

What does stage 4 mean?

[ForgeCorvus]

What does stage 4 mean?

Fourth stage! This is where you all think I'm crazy and maybe I am . The country is invaded by a culture alien to the status quo. Think Nazis, since it's too politically incorrect to mention anything else. You are no longer safe. Just by being Christian, Jewish, Hare Krishna, disabled, unemployed or whatever - you are persona non grata. Worthless! You will be exterminated. What are you going to do? Where are you going to hide? If the invading/controlling force want to find you, they will. Technology has improved leaps and bounds since WWII, when the partisans holed up in the woods, etc. Start thinking along the lines of tracking dogs and work your way up though heat seeking equipment and infra red cameras. If, like me, you are resigned by the fact that you cannot and will not give up your own beliefs and integrate (if allowed) into the new society, you will have to be prepared to suffer the consequences. Hard enough to do yourself, but think about your family. If you think you know how to keep yourself and your family hidden, safe, watered, fed and warm in those circumstances (especially in Scotland), I would love to know how you would do it. Anyone up for the challenge?

Unlikely to happen, as certain people are too busy fighting with other sects of their own religion to bother with us.

All Faiths have arseholes, but assuming that the loudest ones speak for the whole religion is the same as thinking the Westboro Baptist Church speaks for all Christians.

[FEISTY]

Lonewolf - May I ask if you have a steadfast plan for bugging out (still within the remit for My Stealth Permanent Camp/Bug Out Location - I have assumed this doesn't only relate to the tent in the woods) for the situation where you are being sought out (eg the Jews in Nazi Germany), except fast forward to detection equipment light years ahead of what they had in WWII? Your options are: pretend to be a non-Jew and blend (this wouldn't be an easy option and untenable for many), hide (many Jews managed to evade detection) or flee. I don't mean where you just stay out of your neighbours' way - you are being actively sought out by those who want to kill you. For the purpose of this exercise, I am asking the question: If, because of the courage of your convictions, you are unwilling to blend/convert, how do you hide or flee (realistically and where to)? The borders will be closed and your enemies are everywhere. You say you have plans A to infinity. What are they? If you won't share, why comment? This isn't an outlandish scenario - it's already happened many times over in the past and may play out with different antagonists and different technology. How would you survive? PS I'm 50. Patronising me doesn't work. I want to know if anyone genuinely thinks they can evade capture and death and, so far, unsurprisingly, no-one has come forward with a plan of any kind.

[Plymtom]

In the spirit of things Fiesty your scenario fourth stage could develop inside or alongside many of the others we contemplate and not so outlandish, many crackpots of varying denominations will be looking for scape goats pretty much as foreigners were sought out and persecuted during the great fire of London and the Black death, it is not at all unreasonable to think that extremist religious survivors would try and hijack a SHTF event for their own ends, hell as you are saying between the lines it could easily be a plan of attack for many a crackpot.

Like many a desperate scenario for my family fourth stage would quite likely be fatal, doesn't mean we would not resist or hide if we thought we could, but as you say bugging out/relocating when no one is looking for you is hard enough.

[FEISTY]

In the spirit of things Fiesty your scenario fourth stage could develop inside or alongside many of the others we contemplate and not so outlandish, many crackpots of varying denominations will be looking for scape goats pretty much as foreigners were sought out and persecuted during the great fire of London and the Black death, it is not at all unreasonable to think that extremist religious survivors would try and hijack a SHTF event for their own ends, hell as you are saying between the lines it could easily be a plan of attack for many a crackpot.

Like many a desperate scenario for my family fourth stage would quite likely be fatal, doesn't mean we would not resist or hide if we thought we could, but as you say bugging out/relocating when no one is looking for you is hard enough.

Well, that's what I'm thinking and I'm grateful someone else can see it too. On an island, I just don't think it's possible to get far enough away or hidden enough if an organised force is determined to find you. I just hope it doesn't happen and will continue to prep for my scenarios 1 to 3 .

[bladefalcon]

Gotta say I'm loving this thread!!