As you do just before 8 in the morning , I had a bit of a brain wave, yes that awful noise wasnt an earth quake but me
If problems arise outside and we need to block our main entrance doors , and also we are uncertain if water supplies will continue. The thought I had was
You will need to get 205 litre food grade drums , you'll need one for each door .
Place on boards (plywood, sterling board) to spread the load over the floor and then fill with water , adding the appropriate amount of water purification tablets to help with longer term storage
And with that you have a 210kg door blocker and 205 l water supply .
There are however problems
You have just blocked your exit if needed
Storage of drums, they ain't small
They get lighter as you drink , use it
You'll need a siphon or hand pump to get the water out ,Or to fit a tap to it .
Now off for a bit of breakfast.
J
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Not a bad idea in itself, I'd still want to put something between the water and the door to avoid it being penetrated, me flooded and security breached sandbags first then smaller containers I think we have some 50 Litre ones, they'd stack three high easy, again against and on some heavy duty board.
There is a real danger of collapse under the sort of loading we are talking about here, anything other than a solid concrete floor on ground level laid directly onto the ground, we would need to be asking a structural engineer about I think, just like digging a tunnel it's more than a little dodgy.
There is a real danger of collapse under the sort of loading we are talking about here, anything other than a solid concrete floor on ground level laid directly onto the ground, we would need to be asking a structural engineer about I think, just like digging a tunnel it's more than a little dodgy.
I have a strategy, it's not written in stone, nor can it be, this scenario has too many variables, everything about it depends on those variables, being specific is not possible.
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Don't forget the hose to fill them up with . I suppose it makes a sort of sense but what about the windows? They would still be vulnerable as would outward opening doors .
How tall are the barrels you are thinking of using , would it require one on top of another to protect the whole door? I'm thinking there a half glazed door still needing a physical barrier covering the glass.
How tall are the barrels you are thinking of using , would it require one on top of another to protect the whole door? I'm thinking there a half glazed door still needing a physical barrier covering the glass.
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There are hundreds of door combinations , too numerous to go into detail in , outward opening doors? Not so as they are inherently strong due to closing on a jam , add ball baring hindges and hinge pins and it will be solid ( subject to door construction) drum size 1030mm by 550 diameter,
Wouldn't advise stacking them 400kg is a huge load on a domestic property.
Hose to fill them isnt really nessessary , a jug , pot , or basin and a funnel would do just as good . But if you have a hose dont forget a tap connector as well.
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Wouldn't advise stacking them 400kg is a huge load on a domestic property.
Hose to fill them isnt really nessessary , a jug , pot , or basin and a funnel would do just as good . But if you have a hose dont forget a tap connector as well.
j
Be Prepared.
Plan like its the last loaf on the shop shelves.
Plan like its the last beer in the fridge.
Plan like its the last loaf on the shop shelves.
Plan like its the last beer in the fridge.
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Fine line between security and been able to escape if needed to in a hurry leave on route out
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Depending on the layout of the house (or could be of help to other users) you could use wooden fence posts as a straight brace between the door and the hallway wall. Bottom of the door is obviously easier but you would need to prop up the top braces. I think the upright supports could have a piece of steel roundbar out of the ends that would correspond with the horizontal bracing. Strong, easy put together/ taken down and can be stored in the cupboard. Flat-pack door defence if you will?
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That's a good solution although I would add a sheet of ply or idealy steel to spread the load on the door and also prevent (to some extent) penetration with cutting implements.. There is a limit to how secure you can make any door though, in fact some of the most secure doors I have seen were a pressed metal skin on both sides maybe a mm thick backed with non burnable foam attached to an external firestop door, they were mega heavy but if you fitted locks or bolts in 3 or 4 places combined with the 4 hinges they came supplied with they were virtually unopenable without keys. The beauty of them was with a coat of paint they just looked like another door.
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The best diy door security ive seen is 4 brakets,2 at the top of the door 2 at the bottom and then abit of ply board cut to the size of your door,then 2 lengths of 4x2 placed across the door into the brackets,cheap easy and you can keep the materials in you shed taking up no space,but easy and quick to I stall if needed .