Door Security,Water Supply

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poppypiesdad
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Door Security,Water Supply

Post by poppypiesdad »

As you do just before 8 in the morning , I had a bit of a brain wave, yes that awful noise wasnt an earth quake but me

If problems arise outside and we need to block our main entrance doors , and also we are uncertain if water supplies will continue. The thought I had was

You will need to get 205 litre food grade drums , you'll need one for each door .

Place on boards (plywood, sterling board) to spread the load over the floor and then fill with water , adding the appropriate amount of water purification tablets to help with longer term storage

And with that you have a 210kg door blocker and 205 l water supply .

There are however problems

You have just blocked your exit if needed
Storage of drums, they ain't small
They get lighter as you drink , use it
You'll need a siphon or hand pump to get the water out ,Or to fit a tap to it .

Now off for a bit of breakfast.

J

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Not a bad idea in itself, I'd still want to put something between the water and the door to avoid it being penetrated, me flooded and security breached ;) sandbags first then smaller containers I think we have some 50 Litre ones, they'd stack three high easy, again against and on some heavy duty board.

There is a real danger of collapse under the sort of loading we are talking about here, anything other than a solid concrete floor on ground level laid directly onto the ground, we would need to be asking a structural engineer about I think, just like digging a tunnel it's more than a little dodgy.
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Don't forget the hose to fill them up with . I suppose it makes a sort of sense but what about the windows? They would still be vulnerable as would outward opening doors .
How tall are the barrels you are thinking of using , would it require one on top of another to protect the whole door? I'm thinking there a half glazed door still needing a physical barrier covering the glass.
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There are hundreds of door combinations , too numerous to go into detail in , outward opening doors? Not so as they are inherently strong due to closing on a jam , add ball baring hindges and hinge pins and it will be solid ( subject to door construction) drum size 1030mm by 550 diameter,
Wouldn't advise stacking them 400kg is a huge load on a domestic property.
Hose to fill them isnt really nessessary , a jug , pot , or basin and a funnel would do just as good . But if you have a hose dont forget a tap connector as well.

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Fine line between security and been able to escape if needed to in a hurry leave on route out
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Post by Moxy »

Depending on the layout of the house (or could be of help to other users) you could use wooden fence posts as a straight brace between the door and the hallway wall. Bottom of the door is obviously easier but you would need to prop up the top braces. I think the upright supports could have a piece of steel roundbar out of the ends that would correspond with the horizontal bracing. Strong, easy put together/ taken down and can be stored in the cupboard. Flat-pack door defence if you will?
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That's a good solution although I would add a sheet of ply or idealy steel to spread the load on the door and also prevent (to some extent) penetration with cutting implements.. There is a limit to how secure you can make any door though, in fact some of the most secure doors I have seen were a pressed metal skin on both sides maybe a mm thick backed with non burnable foam attached to an external firestop door, they were mega heavy but if you fitted locks or bolts in 3 or 4 places combined with the 4 hinges they came supplied with they were virtually unopenable without keys. The beauty of them was with a coat of paint they just looked like another door.
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The best diy door security ive seen is 4 brakets,2 at the top of the door 2 at the bottom and then abit of ply board cut to the size of your door,then 2 lengths of 4x2 placed across the door into the brackets,cheap easy and you can keep the materials in you shed taking up no space,but easy and quick to I stall if needed :).