Cheap and effective comprehensive medical kits...

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ParamedicPrepper
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Cheap and effective comprehensive medical kits...

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How much did your medical supplies cost and how much room do they take up in your storage space? (BOB, car,home etc..)

What training have you had and how ready are you?

I want to offer some basic skills and cheap equipment ideas that will blow your FAK out of the water and save you all money

If your interested?
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I have 3 FAK's technically. I have a large FAK in my BOB and a small/ basic FAK in my EDC. I also have a medium FAK in my car which is my car's GHB.

I stripped the contents out of all of them when I bought them and removed non essential items and placed my essentials in them with my level of first aid knowledge. Obviously my large kit contains more items for bigger injuries etc. In all honesty I have tailored my FAK's for my personal use only and not for anyone else. At the end of the day in SHTF scenario my safety comes first and everyone else is second. I have obviously catered for my partner as well - which goes without saying.

I have to do mandatory first aid at work every year so I am relatively up to speed with what to do in most types of emergencies I'd like to think.

I would like to hear your thoughts and suggestions as in my opinion the topic of first aid is a very important priority subject to know and learn. I would like to think most preppers and survivalists rate first aid one of their top priorities.
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Definately interested, fire away

Can i ask what you think of this kit i was thinking of buying off ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Exceptional-W ... 1638713394

The bag on its own from the same seller is £10 cheaper than the link i have posted with it supplied with kit, so is the kit in it worth the £10 price difference they are charging

I like the bright green bag and will be purchasing one of those anyway i would think, i am mainly just after opinions on the kit it comes with and if it is reasonable and what else to add to it
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BadgerSE wrote:I have 3 FAK's technically. I have a large FAK in my BOB and a small/ basic FAK in my EDC. I also have a medium FAK in my car which is my car's GHB.

I stripped the contents out of all of them when I bought them and removed non essential items and placed my essentials in them with my level of first aid knowledge. Obviously my large kit contains more items for bigger injuries etc. In all honesty I have tailored my FAK's for my personal use only and not for anyone else. At the end of the day in SHTF scenario my safety comes first and everyone else is second. I have obviously catered for my partner as well - which goes without saying.

I have to do mandatory first aid at work every year so I am relatively up to speed with what to do in most types of emergencies I'd like to think.

I would like to hear your thoughts and suggestions as in my opinion the topic of first aid is a very important priority subject to know and learn. I would like to think most preppers and survivalists rate first aid one of their top priorities.
Sounds like a good setup. It is practical and contains stuff you would use. Seeing as the kits are not just for SHTF you can include first aid equipment to as the help should always arrive.

Regular first aid training is good. It gives you the grounding and from that you can add knowledge. In trauma for example the best advice i can giv is strip to underwear where possible as you cannot see all the damage with clothes on. A good example of this was a stabbing I attended recently. The patient had two large stab wounds in the upper torso which is not good but the bystanders administering first aid missed the fact these wounds were not bleeding. The puddle of blood they were all standing in was coming from the wound at base of his buttock. An arterial bleed by all accounts that was going to kill the patient long before the chest wounds. If the blood loss does not match the wounds ask why!

A grand job on their part at patching the chest but always strip and assess as a whole do not get drawn in to distracting injuries...
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Yes i would love to hear what you can add to the forums, i have a diploma in herbal medicine but would love to find and learn as much medical info as i can.
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What are your views on having a single Celox-A applicator in a LFAK? I've got one and I was fortunate enough to acquire and be taught how to use it by an Army field medic!

I appreciate they are mainly for bullet wounds but still a worthy asset?
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defender130 wrote:Definately interested, fire away

Can i ask what you think of this kit i was thinking of buying off ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Exceptional-W ... 1638713394

The bag on its own from the same seller is £10 cheaper than the link i have posted with it supplied with kit, so is the kit in it worth the £10 price difference they are charging

I like the bright green bag and will be purchasing one of those anyway i would think, i am mainly just after opinions on the kit it comes with and if it is reasonable and what else to add to it
Looks like a good kit. Based on a HSE refill kit by the looks of it with some extras. I love tuff kuts can never have to many. Good amount of triangular bandages. Maybe add something slightly more robust for big bleeds. The HSE large dressings are ok but the Israeli trauma dressings are the best. Maybe a cat tourniquet or similar. What about meds? Maybe basic painkillers and some antiseptic?

Depends on how you will use it really. Day to day for family and where you may render aid or in SHTF situation. As the additions may be different in each case. Have you first aid training or any experience? As that will really dictate what to add. But basically as a start and cost effectiveness then yes go for it if you want that bag specifically. Otherwise sp services do some good cheap bags

Hope that helps
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BadgerSE wrote:What are your views on having a single Celox-A applicator in a LFAK? I've got one and I was fortunate enough to acquire and be taught how to use it by an Army field medic!

I appreciate they are mainly for bullet wounds but still a worthy asset?
I would say day to day where you will get the help then do not use as it will upset the surgeon who repairs the damage as it can get messy and should only be used in catastrophic bleeds.

We use chitogauze at work and its pretty good but as it says it is a gauze and easily removed.

SHTF with no healthcare then fire away use it as lets be honest you have no surgeon on standby! Just bear in mind if u do stop the bleed then what next? How will you manage the wound and blood loss after you have stemmed the bleed?
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So price wise in the original post may of been from the top of my head but in general going through

Paracetamol works out 0.19p for 16 generic and anadin £1. Exactly the same drug

Ibuprofen works out 0.25p for 16 generic and nurofen £1.90. Exactly the same drug

Ranitidine works out £1.50 for 12 generic and Gavilast £3.97. Exactly the same drug.

Just a few from Asda website. I am sure pharmacy first will be about same maybe cheaper on the generics.
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ParamedicPrepper wrote:
defender130 wrote:Definately interested, fire away

Can i ask what you think of this kit i was thinking of buying off ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Exceptional-W ... 1638713394

The bag on its own from the same seller is £10 cheaper than the link i have posted with it supplied with kit, so is the kit in it worth the £10 price difference they are charging

I like the bright green bag and will be purchasing one of those anyway i would think, i am mainly just after opinions on the kit it comes with and if it is reasonable and what else to add to it
Looks like a good kit. Based on a HSE refill kit by the looks of it with some extras. I love tuff kuts can never have to many. Good amount of triangular bandages. Maybe add something slightly more robust for big bleeds. The HSE large dressings are ok but the Israeli trauma dressings are the best. Maybe a cat tourniquet or similar. What about meds? Maybe basic painkillers and some antiseptic?

Depends on how you will use it really. Day to day for family and where you may render aid or in SHTF situation. As the additions may be different in each case. Have you first aid training or any experience? As that will really dictate what to add. But basically as a start and cost effectiveness then yes go for it if you want that bag specifically. Otherwise sp services do some good cheap bags

Hope that helps

Yes that helps, thanks

It was that bag purely for the close resembalence to Kawasaki Green in colour, will just add extra things to go in with it

No first aid experience as such although a course is on the list of things to do, usually just ring my wifes Auntie for advice if unsure of anything as she does first aid courses for the red cross (i think or may be st johns)

To be fair the only person in our family who usually needs first aid is me after a slip with a drill, screwdriver, angle grinder etc although i find when out in the garage and trying to get something finished that a wad of kitchen roll and some insulation tape usually does the job

As i am getting older and slightly more sensible i figured some proper stuff might be better