coming crisis in farming

[diamond lil]

I wouldn't know a chickpea or a hummus if it sat on me. And I don't want to, tyvm. I can cope with baked beans and peas though

[jennyjj01]

I wouldn't know a chickpea or a hummus if it sat on me. And I don't want to, tyvm. I can cope with baked beans and peas though

Heathen !
Chickpeas so versatile. Try 'em. I'll do you some recipes. Tell us what foods you like and we'll see if I can't sub chickpeas into the recipe.

[diamond lil]

I've seen chickpeas. That was enough thanks I'll pass!

[diamond lil]

Or maybe its hummus I mean. Either way, bleugh!

[jennyjj01]

Or maybe its hummus I mean. Either way, bleugh!

I'll give you that. Hummus is at best an acquired taste. ChickPeas more of a blank canvas.
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Try Punjab Choley

[Arzosah]

Or maybe its hummus I mean. Either way, bleugh!

Brilliant

[GillyBee]

Time to collect some recipes using beans/lentils/peas that suit your preferred cuisine. Traditional Indian and Chinese recipes are good at meatless or almost meat free ideas.
For traditional UK style foods you would be looking at red lentils to stretch or replace beef mince or maybe making a vegetable stew with butterbeans instead of chunks of meat. We made a "meat loaf" last week using mashed blackeyed beans with lots of fried onion, celery, carrot and grated cheese which got the thumbs up from my fussy family.
The trick is to add extra flavours - soy sauce or worcester sauce, herbs and something acid - a tablespoon of vinegar or lemon juice will really improve the flavour or serve with an apple or redcurrant sauce.
The other thing to remember is that unless you are an evangelical vegan or vegetarian it is fine to add scraps of meat or juices to help the flavours along. (Assume any scraps of meat are still available)

[Arzosah]

Time to collect some recipes using beans/lentils/peas that suit your preferred cuisine. Traditional Indian and Chinese recipes are good at meatless or almost meat free ideas.
For traditional UK style foods you would be looking at red lentils to stretch or replace beef mince or maybe making a vegetable stew with butterbeans instead of chunks of meat. We made a "meat loaf" last week using mashed blackeyed beans with lots of fried onion, celery, carrot and grated cheese which got the thumbs up from my fussy family.
The trick is to add extra flavours - soy sauce or worcester sauce, herbs and something acid - a tablespoon of vinegar or lemon juice will really improve the flavour or serve with an apple or redcurrant sauce.
The other thing to remember is that unless you are an evangelical vegan or vegetarian it is fine to add scraps of meat or juices to help the flavours along. (Assume any scraps of meat are still available)

Great points!

I'd add:
- red lentils disintegrate completely, so if you want any texture at all from lentils, use green. Still no pre-soaking needed.
- Other legumes that sub for chunks of meat, because they keep their shape really well: chickpeas and red kidney beans.
- balsamic vinegar is to die for.
- As GillyBee says, heaping on the flavour is crucial.


I'm not an evangelical vegetarian, but I *am* veggie by choice, so I wouldn't use meat or meat juices - but there are plenty of flavoursome oils - coconut, butter itself.
For texture - nuts and seeds, the most popular being walnuts, cashews, pumpkin seeds and sunflower seeds.

[GillyBee]

Arzosah.

I do hope my phrase did not offend you. That was not my intention and I apologise if that did not come across.

Most of the vegetarians I know are not at all evangelical. ( Although I wish I could say the same of the very strictly vegan ex-colleague.)

I was simply hoping to point out to any meat eaters contemplating a bean filled future that they could add a familiar flavour to an otherwise vegetarian meal. So many modern recipes either assume you will be eating a substantial portion of meat or else assume your diet avoids it completely. There don't seem to be many modern versions of the WW2/depression cooking systems of making a little meat go a long way.

[diamond lil]

Arzosah won't take offence Gilly. And the WW2/ Depression type of cooking is what I do. From times when meat was dear and money was scarce. Just like now you sometimes wonder why we bother eh!