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[Yorkshire Andy]

My plan should I get evacuated is to head to a family members or friends so it's jacket on and gone...

One thing to remember to have with you is any insurance documents (house contents / car and ID to prove who you are to the authorities if you need emergency accomodation )

On the subject of documents, my maw in law has a very old metal box for her documents, I’m looking for something similar. Her box appears to be indestructible, I’ve had a good look at it and it’s pretty solid….

Something like this is on my list

https://www.toolstation.com/master-lock ... lsrc=aw.ds

[Paracord1945]

Thanks for your reply.

Okay, I think that is wise. I live on a 45 square kilometer island and we are having increasing amounts of extreme weathers over the past couple of years which are becoming more frequent as the years pass. I want to be as prepared as I can incase a large part of the island becomes damaged in some way or uninhabitable and resources can't get through possibly.

What's it like where you are located in the UK at the moment i.e. fuel prices, preparing for the winter and potential blackouts etc, just curious, thanks.

Thanks for the link about the lockbox. I am curious to know how a metal box can be fire proof.

[Kiwififer]

My plan should I get evacuated is to head to a family members or friends so it's jacket on and gone...

One thing to remember to have with you is any insurance documents (house contents / car and ID to prove who you are to the authorities if you need emergency accomodation )

On the subject of documents, my maw in law has a very old metal box for her documents, I’m looking for something similar. Her box appears to be indestructible, I’ve had a good look at it and it’s pretty solid….

Something like this is on my list

https://www.toolstation.com/master-lock ... lsrc=aw.ds

Thanks

[Yorkshire Andy]

What's it like where you are located in the UK at the moment i.e. fuel prices, preparing for the winter and potential blackouts etc, just curious, thanks.

Thanks for the link about the lockbox. I am curious to know how a metal box can be fire proof.

Fuel prices are daft as ever

183.9 ppl for diesel
172.9 ppl for unleaded

About 112 ppl of heating oil

Electric

27.12p per kWh
Standing charge
53.443p per day


As for blackout risk it's coming. I've got friends who work at the local power station they are pulling massive overtime getting mothballed coal units back on line ...


Noticed today that our local hardware store was stripped of gas cartridges.. think that says a lot....


The lockboxs are made of fiberglass and insulated usually with rockwool type insulation


We are in a council house we have electric and mains gas but only a gas boiler to save on servicing the powers that be removed gas fires to save on servicing costs and replaced them with a fake fireplace fan heater The old fireplace was hidden behind a bit of hardboard.... I've dry liked in and put a bio ethanol burner in there no flue needed and a nice backup ...and not forbidden by our agreement unlike parafin heaters and calor heaters...

I've also got a diesel night heater with half an hour I can have that on the patio blasting 5kw of warm air into the kitchen . Via an air brick running it off a caravan battery

I've also got 2 camping gas heaters which if it got bad the rules will go to hell

I've also got an inverter system which would run the boiler for a couple of hours enough to vwarm the house through and let us all grab a bath/ shower

[Paracord1945]

Thanks for your reply.

Wow that's insaine and I think it's going to get worse before it gets better if that happens.

Okay, I am assuming your local powerstation is coal powerd?

Okay, I think I will buy one of those lock boxes.

Thanks.

[Yorkshire Andy]

Thanks for your reply.

Wow that's insaine and I think it's going to get worse before it gets better if that happens.

Okay, I am assuming your local powerstation is coal powerd?

Okay, I think I will buy one of those lock boxes.

Thanks.

Power station is on bio mass wood chip but they only hold 3 days supply .... Which isn't a Ideal situation the site can also hold 3+ months of coal.......

[Paracord1945]

Okay, any plans for the grid uo your end to be renewable or nuclear in the next comming years? Thanks.

[Frnc]

Re docouments in a metal box, I have a different approach. I keep mine in a shoulder bag, one of the slim designs that you can wear under a jacket. This hangs on my bedroom door. I keep my wallet in it when I'm in. Also a pair of bluetooth earbuds and some AAA batteries for my head torch. If I ever have to bug out, my phone fits in a separate pocket.
I do have a metal box, kept in an area away from flammable things, but it's for lipo batteries. Maybe I should put copies of the documents in it. I'm not sure it would survive a house fire.

[GillyBee]

There are two sorts of fireproof lockboxes/safes. The basic is rated to protect paper for a short while. You need heat, oxygen and fuel(paper) to burn so it operates by restricting the access to oxygen nd to moderate amounts of heat. (e.g. embers landing on the paper stack)
If you need to protect computer backup tapes, photographs, film reels etc you need a fireproof safe. These add insulation to make sure the contents stay well below melting temperature and are rated for the length of time they can hold out, 30mins, 60 mins 120 mins.
For household papers, scanned copies encrypted and stored on USB sticks and in the cloud is useful as it makes replacing lost documents much easier and you can access them from anywhere.

[Frnc]

There are two sorts of fireproof lockboxes/safes. The basic is rated to protect paper for a short while. You need heat, oxygen and fuel(paper) to burn so it operates by restricting the access to oxygen nd to moderate amounts of heat. (e.g. embers landing on the paper stack)
If you need to protect computer backup tapes, photographs, film reels etc you need a fireproof safe. These add insulation to make sure the contents stay well below melting temperature and are rated for the length of time they can hold out, 30mins, 60 mins 120 mins.
For household papers, scanned copies encrypted and stored on USB sticks and in the cloud is useful as it makes replacing lost documents much easier and you can access them from anywhere.

Mine is the opposite. If a lipo fire breaks out in the container, you want air to be able to escape to reduce chance of pressure builup which I assume might cause explosion. On the youtube vid I saw it being tested, they removed the rubber seal, which I did. These are just metal cases anyway. Sounds like I need a dedicated fireproof document safe if I want to go down that route. Thing is they are only rated for short periods so I'm not sure it's worth it. The digital idea is a good one. I think multiple methods/copies is best.
1. To grab, ie my shoulder bag
2. Fireproof box, bearing in mind they are only rated for short periods
3. Digital, in cloud
4. ??