Advice for a hopeless gardener

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Arzosah wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 7:18 pm Jansman, I've always thought of jerusalem artichokes as being desirable because perennial, but well dodgy because you'd lose so much of them through peeling. And I googled briefly before I posted this, and found that plenty of links recommended scrubbing but not peeling, or cooking first so the skin comes off easily. What do you do?
Wash em,then peel. An old legend suggests leaving them out of the ground for a few days too, as that suggests it makes them less *windy* :lol: I love ‘em.
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Thanks for this, jansman and lowlander - I'm ordering some tubers this morning.
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One you have Jerusalem artichokes you will have them forever so think carefully about where you are putting them. They also spread albeit slowly. I dug out a sackful and the next year they popped up again and produced as much as the year before. I wouldn't mind but the family refuse to eat them because of the wind issues.
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GillyBee wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:26 am One you have Jerusalem artichokes you will have them forever so think carefully about where you are putting them. They also spread albeit slowly. I dug out a sackful and the next year they popped up again and produced as much as the year before. I wouldn't mind but the family refuse to eat them because of the wind issues.
Absolutely. Where you put them needs thought Arzosah. They are very productive.
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Hmm. I thought there might be additional wise words :) and I saw something to this effect on crocus or somewhere, including the suggestion of limiting spread by making a barrier in the soil?

I've been gathering bookmarks and thinking about this. I know what to do :) there's a corner of my garden still infested with a collapsed garden shed: no roof, window fell out, walls are leaning, blah blah. It blocks a neighbour's view of my side return, though ie it gives me a great deal of privacy. Jerusalem artichokes sound like they'd be ideal there. It's next to my love/hate laurels, there's a 4" diameter dead silver birch there too (which I left standing in case I needed to chop it down for firewood if the grid collapsed, there's plenty for them to hang on to. I could also dig a trench (gradually!) and fill with ... something ... to isolate them.

Possibly not explaining it too well (and I've only just thought of it :lol: ). I'll delay the tuber purchase till next week, but the whole "easy perennial that grows food" is very attractive to me, and gives me something useful to do with that corner, rather than just tidying it up. Ha!

Jenny, hope this is useful to you too :)
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The Jerusalem artichoke has been sown as a ‘screen’ in the past on game shoots etc. Mine closes a gap in the fence so in Summer it’s totally private. Mine are now sown in cut off. 50 gallon barrels sunk in the ground. Keeps them in place.
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I don't have much room here, so mine are going into potato growing bags; I've grown them in pots before.
In a village near to where I used to live, there was a corner of the field where some had been planted and just left to their own devices, when I visited it was a substantial sized patch. The locals were able/allowed to just go and help themselves.
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Now here's a new question...

Propagation of onions by splitting.....

I found a red onion in the garage in my veg box. It was shop bought but long forgotten and was once as big as a fist. It has sprouted with FIVE distinct shoots each about two inches long.

Thinking waste not want not, what's the likely outcome if I can split off those 5 ?cloves? of onion and plant them out maybe 6 inches apart? They share several outer layers. Should I just plant it as is or split it. Or am I being silly?

Might the bulbs get fat and form 5 new full sized onions? Or are they likely to die or bolt?
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Hi jen i am not sure of the3 answer i do remember one year i did something like this lol and i think it just put out some pretty flowers on the allotment bit like the flowering alliums we brouhgt lol .

No harm in trying but if i am right you will get flowers lol but hey if you have spare space throw anything in to keep weeds away we use to use the field lupins asd a green manure , but get your onion sets in mine are in and me garlics lol i had a good run health wise the other day but today back in hospital lol , i am hoping to feel better by weekend as weather looks good i want to get early peas in the trench .

Keep calm and carry on

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he does 2 type a printed and a download i went printed
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steptoe wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:08 pm Hi jen i am not sure of the3 answer i do remember one year i did something like this lol and i think it just put out some pretty flowers on the allotment bit like the flowering alliums we brouhgt lol .

No harm in trying but if i am right you will get flowers lol but hey if you have spare space throw anything in to keep weeds away we use to use the field lupins asd a green manure , but get your onion sets in mine are in and me garlics lol i had a good run health wise the other day but today back in hospital lol , i am hoping to feel better by weekend as weather looks good i want to get early peas in the trench .

Keep calm and carry on

Ps jen there is a person on the bay selling the kitchen front book it is a printed copy but has 122 recipies in lol , there are a couple of other books under the same name but you want the one with a cartoon lady on the front holding a frying pan over a radio
he does 2 type a printed and a download i went printed
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404030888645 ... R_ya8PXGYQ
Thanks. With the lotment, I have far more space than I know what to do with. Don't ask how the weed clearing is going !
I'm going to shamelessly sow anything and everything, with childlike innocence :) If I get onion daffodils I can still call it cultivating when the lotment manager comes calling.
So.... You planted onion sets? I'm going for a mix of seeds and sets this year. My two lots of seeds are Ailsa Craig: 2 inch sprouted and rijburger which as not sprouted yet. I'm hoping they are big enough to plant out in a few weeks.
Thanks for the heads up on the cook book. I'll take a looksee.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kitchen-Front- ... 166&sr=1-3

Sorry to hear you've not been well. Get well soon. Don't go sowing stuff without giving me the heads up.
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