Potential Turnip Winter.

[jansman]

My intention is to prepare for a situation where there is food but it's of poor quality and lacks key nutritional components. There are several examples of that happening in the last 100 years.

So what I've allowed myself is a single 12"x9"x6" box. It's cardboard so I'm waterproofing it inside and out. I was orginally going to get bottled oils, but they only have a two year shelf life so decided to take 'Vitamin C's' advice to get my fats inside the tin, and went with canned fish, 8 tins of sardines, but because I want to be able to portion carefully I also went with 6 tins of anchovies. All in Oil.

Then I fit in a 500g bag of caster sugar, billingtons because it was in a strong plastic bag and a bottle of multivitamins.

There's still space for a bit more, so I'll probably squeeze in more tins of fish (which incidentally I can't stand).

Currently the box has I'd estimate less than 5000 calories, but if I'm in an environment where it's turnips or some other root vegetable 3 times a day, with careful rationing it might ward of the effects of protein/fat deficiency for a few months.

Any thoughts?

Your emergency box sounds good,but why stock tinned fish if you don’t like it? Also, why store -intentionally- food that lacks nutrients?

[Trig.Point]

My intention is to prepare for a situation where there is food but it's of poor quality and lacks key nutritional components. There are several examples of that happening in the last 100 years.

So what I've allowed myself is a single 12"x9"x6" box. It's cardboard so I'm waterproofing it inside and out. I was orginally going to get bottled oils, but they only have a two year shelf life so decided to take 'Vitamin C's' advice to get my fats inside the tin, and went with canned fish, 8 tins of sardines, but because I want to be able to portion carefully I also went with 6 tins of anchovies. All in Oil.

Then I fit in a 500g bag of caster sugar, billingtons because it was in a strong plastic bag and a bottle of multivitamins.

There's still space for a bit more, so I'll probably squeeze in more tins of fish (which incidentally I can't stand).

Currently the box has I'd estimate less than 5000 calories, but if I'm in an environment where it's turnips or some other root vegetable 3 times a day, with careful rationing it might ward of the effects of protein/fat deficiency for a few months.

Any thoughts?

Your emergency box sounds good,but why stock tinned fish if you don’t like it? Also, why store -intentionally- food that lacks nutrients?

From my reading of what happened in previous 'turnip winters' picky eating wasn't really a thing.

Also I chose the items to provide fat/protein with the sugar just being a mass of carbohydrate. In what sense does the fish lack nutrients?

[jansman]

The fish doesn’t lack nutrients- far from it. You said you don’t like it!

[Trig.Point]

The fish doesn’t lack nutrients- far from it. You said you don’t like it!

Sorry, so what were you referring to when you said I was picking foods that intentionally lack nutrients?

[jansman]

The fish doesn’t lack nutrients- far from it. You said you don’t like it!

Sorry, so what were you referring to when you said I was picking foods that intentionally lack nutrients?

I am sorry. I misunderstood your first paragraph. My apologies.

[Vitamin c]

Chickpeas contain fat,carbohydrate and protein.
If you don't like fish then anything containing nuts is good for fat peanut butter is really high calories but don't store much over a year ,you might be able to get tinned .so it's tins of meat for you corn beef is a great standby wait for it to go on offer and get loads .
Farm foods do a 99p tin of ham by pec , not tried it but get 1 if like get 30.

Peanut butter is reasonably priced could you buy a load and eat your way through it adding to it so you always have a up to date stock.

[pseudonym]

Trig
If you really can't stand tinned fish there is no point in even looking at it. You will still hate it if it's the only thing left to eat!

Frank's Hot sauce covers most ills...

[steptoe]

Well my idea of stocking food is i stock what me and the mrs like because why stock something you do not like you will never eat it and it will go to waste unless you plain on swapping or trading it .

Now tinned fish or fresh hehehe i will eat them all i am part dolphin so people tell me , they also tell me it is not normal to eat tinned mackeral in tom sauce with raw onion lol , now who remembers Cliffon the dragon yup they called me that i had breath that could knock an elephant off it's feet but it never seemed to both me just others lol , i was the same at school egg mayo sandwichs summer winter you name it lol you could tell when i opened my packed lunch lol .

I will say we are liking the tinned chicken from sainsburys and morrisons .

[jennyjj01]

My intention is to prepare for a situation where there is food but it's of poor quality and lacks key nutritional components. There are several examples of that happening in the last 100 years.

So what I've allowed myself is a single 12"x9"x6" box. It's cardboard so I'm waterproofing it inside and out. I was orginally going to get bottled oils, but they only have a two year shelf life so decided to take 'Vitamin C's' advice to get my fats inside the tin, and went with canned fish, 8 tins of sardines, but because I want to be able to portion carefully I also went with 6 tins of anchovies. All in Oil.

Then I fit in a 500g bag of caster sugar, billingtons because it was in a strong plastic bag and a bottle of multivitamins.

There's still space for a bit more, so I'll probably squeeze in more tins of fish (which incidentally I can't stand).

Currently the box has I'd estimate less than 5000 calories, but if I'm in an environment where it's turnips or some other root vegetable 3 times a day, with careful rationing it might ward of the effects of protein/fat deficiency for a few months.

Any thoughts?

Hi Trig Point. You invited comments, so I'll be frank....
....I think you started with good intentions but went adrift a bit.

If you are rotaing your stocks, then the short shelf life of oils should not matter. In my experience, sunflower cooking oil stays perdect for at least 3 years. If the self same oil is in tins of tuna, then it will last just as well or badly. Remember my analogy to the water situation? Storing water in a world where water is unlikely to be scarce is pointless. Similarly storing carbs when carbs will continue to be plentiful is also pointless. So your idea of concentrating on protein was sound. But in times of crisis, we need the psychological boost of nice scoff. E.g. stash some dark chocolate. Certainly don't stash something you actively dislike.
Your mention of 5000cals has to assume you expect simple white carbs to still be around.
I'm not saying you are wrong. Who knows the conditions we face.
For your objective of stashing protein, consider dried pulses and dried mushrooms, spam or similar and tinned luncheon meat. Fish is oft recommended for it's lower price.
When I make my buying decisions I look at the following metrics...
White carbs, such as rice and pasta £ per 1000kCalories. Since 1000kCal is a scant days worth, If I can pay less that £1, I leap in. Rice, cheap pasta and dried mash, fit that. Sugar and flour are also super flexible calorie sources.
Proteins such as tinned meat: Price per Kilogram. Anything under £5/Kilo, I view as good value. Over £10 I balk.
Sources of Flavour get purchased proportional to the carbs. So a tin of tomatoes to three portions of white carbs.

Rotate your stocks into your regular diet and your stockpiles are pretty much free.

Check out 'therationchallenge' for what you NEED to survive a week. It really isn't much.

[jennyjj01]

Farm foods do a 99p tin of ham by pec , not tried it but get 1 if like get 30.

Peanut butter is reasonably priced could you buy a load and eat your way through it adding to it so you always have a up to date stock.

I got some cheap pek and tried it. It's pretty gross. Put's in mind tinned pigs arses. I tried it in curry sauces, pasta sauce, fried, grilled, all sorts. It was unremittingly god-awful.

It IS cheap protein, possibly the cheapest.

I don't like peanut butter, but I agree that's a great protein stash and some would deem it a treat.
Speaking of treats. JAM. High in calories. High in 'treat' value. Plenty of cheap varieties.