What Preps are you doing this week? Part 10

How are you preparing
Frnc
Posts: 5063
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:54 pm

Re: What Preps are you doing this week? Part 10

Post by Frnc »

Arzosah wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:47 am
Yorkshire Andy wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:01 pm Ordered some new work shirts if that counts nice thin nomex fabric for some protection from fire / welding work
Hi Andy, the first aid stuff you posted in the bit that I snipped was interesting, but as for purchases, I'm *really* interested in this, the nomex fabric - on googling, I can see people sell it in lots of places, including Etsy, but I don't know enough about it to trust any information they give me. Do you have a trusted supplier? Or any recommendations?
I got some Nomex overalls off ebay, dirt cheap £26 *now £35). https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324230801342 I was dubious, so I cut a small piece off where there is spare materiall folded back near the lapel. About 3 cm x 1.5 cm. You can't see it missing, it's underneath. I tried lighting it with a lighter. I held the flame onder the edge for several seconds. It didn't catch fire or melt. I did this several times. Eventually it was charred, but never caught fire. Finally on the last try, when it was all charred, the charred material did catch alight.
The material did NOT melt. It just went brown after being over a flame for several seconds.
My conclusion is, this is 100% genuine.
Note that there are different types of Nomex. My one is a light weight version (4.5 ounce), 93% Nomex. I think most of the other 7% is kevlar. It is bit thicker than a dress shirt I would say.
Yorkshire Andy
Posts: 9888
Joined: Thu Oct 03, 2013 4:06 pm

Re: What Preps are you doing this week? Part 10

Post by Yorkshire Andy »

Frnc wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:03 am
Arzosah wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:47 am
Yorkshire Andy wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:01 pm Ordered some new work shirts if that counts nice thin nomex fabric for some protection from fire / welding work
Hi Andy, the first aid stuff you posted in the bit that I snipped was interesting, but as for purchases, I'm *really* interested in this, the nomex fabric - on googling, I can see people sell it in lots of places, including Etsy, but I don't know enough about it to trust any information they give me. Do you have a trusted supplier? Or any recommendations?
I got some Nomex overalls off ebay, dirt cheap £26 *now £35). https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324230801342 I was dubious, so I cut a small piece off where there is spare materiall folded back near the lapel. About 3 cm x 1.5 cm. You can't see it missing, it's underneath. I tried lighting it with a lighter. I held the flame onder the edge for several seconds. It didn't catch fire or melt. I did this several times. Eventually it was charred, but never caught fire. Finally on the last try, when it was all charred, the charred material did catch alight.
The material did NOT melt. It just went brown after being over a flame for several seconds.
My conclusion is, this is 100% genuine.
Note that there are different types of Nomex. My one is a light weight version (4.5 ounce), 93% Nomex. I think most of the other 7% is kevlar. It is bit thicker than a dress shirt I would say.

Good few years ago I went to a firework display with some mates it was a bitterly cold night I put a pair of proban overalls over my clothes and a old jacket over the top , the park land is known to be closely related to the Somme so didn't wear anything good.... Well something went Pete tong as it was blowing a gale ...and several big display grade fireworks went into the crowd we were near the front as the first one went bang I run under the safety rope and laid flat the marshalls went under tye rope away into tyr crowd :lol: .. nearly everyone legged it the way they came in ..... There were a good few burn injuries, a good few trampled my jacket had several burn holes in the back but nothing to the overalls.. weather they offered any actual protection I'll never know but I'm glad I had them on


One bonus with nomex is washing doesn't remove protection.. proban doesnt like been laundered incorrectly
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong ;)

Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Frnc
Posts: 5063
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:54 pm

Re: What Preps are you doing this week? Part 10

Post by Frnc »

Yorkshire Andy wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:28 am
Frnc wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:03 am
Arzosah wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:47 am Hi Andy, the first aid stuff you posted in the bit that I snipped was interesting, but as for purchases, I'm *really* interested in this, the nomex fabric - on googling, I can see people sell it in lots of places, including Etsy, but I don't know enough about it to trust any information they give me. Do you have a trusted supplier? Or any recommendations?
I got some Nomex overalls off ebay, dirt cheap £26 *now £35). https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324230801342 I was dubious, so I cut a small piece off where there is spare materiall folded back near the lapel. About 3 cm x 1.5 cm. You can't see it missing, it's underneath. I tried lighting it with a lighter. I held the flame onder the edge for several seconds. It didn't catch fire or melt. I did this several times. Eventually it was charred, but never caught fire. Finally on the last try, when it was all charred, the charred material did catch alight.
The material did NOT melt. It just went brown after being over a flame for several seconds.
My conclusion is, this is 100% genuine.
Note that there are different types of Nomex. My one is a light weight version (4.5 ounce), 93% Nomex. I think most of the other 7% is kevlar. It is bit thicker than a dress shirt I would say.

Good few years ago I went to a firework display with some mates it was a bitterly cold night I put a pair of proban overalls over my clothes and a old jacket over the top , the park land is known to be closely related to the Somme so didn't wear anything good.... Well something went Pete tong as it was blowing a gale ...and several big display grade fireworks went into the crowd we were near the front as the first one went bang I run under the safety rope and laid flat the marshalls went under tye rope away into tyr crowd :lol: .. nearly everyone legged it the way they came in ..... There were a good few burn injuries, a good few trampled my jacket had several burn holes in the back but nothing to the overalls.. weather they offered any actual protection I'll never know but I'm glad I had them on


One bonus with nomex is washing doesn't remove protection.. proban doesnt like been laundered incorrectly
Yeah, the ebay ad for mine said good for 125 washes I think, but it's inherent, so should be good indefinitely, unlike coatings, as you say.

I think holding a lighter to an edge is more extreme than a small ember blowing off a typical wood fire. I just got them because I don't want to ruin an expensive synthetic jacket or whatever.
Arzosah
Posts: 6915
Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:20 pm

Re: What Preps are you doing this week? Part 10

Post by Arzosah »

I rejoined ebay (! a prep in itself :lol: ) and bought the last shirt of 9 being sold by a particular seller. Should be delivered by the middle of next week, so its stock thats in this country already, which is good. I don't have a focussed reason for buying it :oops: but for such a useful thing, for only £13, I'm fine with that.
Yorkshire Andy
Posts: 9888
Joined: Thu Oct 03, 2013 4:06 pm

Re: What Preps are you doing this week? Part 10

Post by Yorkshire Andy »

Today's prep bad foot wasn't an issue I dug most of the 900mm deep hole sat down using a trowl and a rabbiting spade ...
Screenshot_20230624-103716.png
Screenshot_20230624-103818.png

My apprentice came to assist in his jammys
Screenshot_20230624-103833.png
He did a good job and the plastic spade was ideal not to damage the pipe..
Screenshot_20230624-104519.png


So what is it? :mrgreen: keep quiet lil :lol:
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong ;)

Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Frnc
Posts: 5063
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:54 pm

Re: What Preps are you doing this week? Part 10

Post by Frnc »

Yorkshire Andy wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:46 am Today's prep bad foot wasn't an issue I dug most of the 900mm deep hole sat down using a trowl and a rabbiting spade ...

Screenshot_20230624-103716.png

Screenshot_20230624-103818.png


My apprentice came to assist in his jammys
Screenshot_20230624-103833.png

He did a good job and the plastic spade was ideal not to damage the pipe..

Screenshot_20230624-104519.png



So what is it? :mrgreen: keep quiet lil :lol:
I don't think it's a condensate thingy, for a boiler.
Yorkshire Andy
Posts: 9888
Joined: Thu Oct 03, 2013 4:06 pm

Re: What Preps are you doing this week? Part 10

Post by Yorkshire Andy »

Frnc wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:47 pm
Yorkshire Andy wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:46 am Today's prep bad foot wasn't an issue I dug most of the 900mm deep hole sat down using a trowl and a rabbiting spade ...

Screenshot_20230624-103716.png

Screenshot_20230624-103818.png


My apprentice came to assist in his jammys
Screenshot_20230624-103833.png

He did a good job and the plastic spade was ideal not to damage the pipe..

Screenshot_20230624-104519.png



So what is it? :mrgreen: keep quiet lil :lol:
I don't think it's a condensate thingy, for a boiler.
Nope didn't need to fill it with lime stone ;)
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong ;)

Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Arzosah
Posts: 6915
Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:20 pm

Re: What Preps are you doing this week? Part 10

Post by Arzosah »

Yorkshire Andy wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:46 am Today's prep bad foot wasn't an issue I dug most of the 900mm deep hole sat down using a trowl and a rabbiting spade ...

So what is it? :mrgreen: keep quiet lil :lol:
A soakaway? Lil knows, how aggravating for the rest of us :lol: :lol: :lol:
User avatar
diamond lil
Posts: 10324
Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:42 pm
Location: Scotland.

Re: What Preps are you doing this week? Part 10

Post by diamond lil »

*keeping quiet* :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Yorkshire Andy
Posts: 9888
Joined: Thu Oct 03, 2013 4:06 pm

Re: What Preps are you doing this week? Part 10

Post by Yorkshire Andy »

Screenshot_20230624-180643.png
I'll put you out of your misery :lol:

Off grid chiller / modern root cellar
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong ;)

Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine