Advice for a hopeless gardener

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GillyBee
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Re: Advice for a hopeless gardener

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How warm has it been where you are? Blight is high risk when temperatures stay above 10 degrees for 2 days or more and humidity above 90%. April seems early for it. RHS says it is usually June or later. Are you sure those spuds did not get frosted? Frost can be surprisingly selective in which bits of a plot get hit.
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Re: Advice for a hopeless gardener

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GillyBee wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:51 pm How warm has it been where you are? Blight is high risk when temperatures stay above 10 degrees for 2 days or more and humidity above 90%. April seems early for it. RHS says it is usually June or later. Are you sure those spuds did not get frosted? Frost can be surprisingly selective in which bits of a plot get hit.
Well, it;s been warm and spring like, Not much frost. Almost surely constantly over 10C and ground was very wet indeed. I'll grab some pictures of the blackened leaves.
That said only a few spuds have greenery, so I MIGHT cull the few blackened ones and hope for the best.

Blight in my spuds would really P me off as I was sowing for a bumper harvest plus I wanted to risk some marters
in the open.
Plus critters have got at my beans. :cry:
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Re: Advice for a hopeless gardener

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jennyjj01 wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:59 pm
GillyBee wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:51 pm How warm has it been where you are? Blight is high risk when temperatures stay above 10 degrees for 2 days or more and humidity above 90%. April seems early for it. RHS says it is usually June or later. Are you sure those spuds did not get frosted? Frost can be surprisingly selective in which bits of a plot get hit.
Well, it;s been warm and spring like, Not much frost. Almost surely constantly over 10C and ground was very wet indeed. I'll grab some pictures of the blackened leaves.
That said only a few spuds have greenery, so I MIGHT cull the few blackened ones and hope for the best.

Blight in my spuds would really P me off as I was sowing for a bumper harvest plus I wanted to risk some marters
in the open.
Plus critters have got at my beans. :cry:
Photos of what ails some of my spuds. This is the entire topgrowth of what was probably a replanted 'volunteer'.

Does the collective think it's blight?

If it is. will I get way with a quick cull before more shoots appear?
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Re: Advice for a hopeless gardener

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I am not convinced that is blight. I can't seen anything "fungal fluffy growth" and I have always seen at least a little of that with a bad/collapsed plant.
All about blight here with pics.
https://horticulture.co.uk/potatoes/blight/
While this is frost damage
https://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/in ... ew;id=1928


The professionals don't expect to see blight for a couple of months yet. Even with climate change & volunteers, I think it is too early for blight. Meanwhile, frost damage at this time of year is common.
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GillyBee wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:59 pm I am not convinced that is blight. I can't seen anything "fungal fluffy growth" and I have always seen at least a little of that with a bad/collapsed plant.
All about blight here with pics.
https://horticulture.co.uk/potatoes/blight/
While this is frost damage
https://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/in ... ew;id=1928


The professionals don't expect to see blight for a couple of months yet. Even with climate change & volunteers, I think it is too early for blight. Meanwhile, frost damage at this time of year is common.
Thanks.
Blightspy seems to say it shouldn't be blight YET

https://blightspy.huttonltd.com/#/forecast
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Re: Advice for a hopeless gardener

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jennyjj01 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:33 pm
GillyBee wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:59 pm I am not convinced that is blight. I can't seen anything "fungal fluffy growth" and I have always seen at least a little of that with a bad/collapsed plant.
All about blight here with pics.
https://horticulture.co.uk/potatoes/blight/
While this is frost damage
https://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/in ... ew;id=1928


The professionals don't expect to see blight for a couple of months yet. Even with climate change & volunteers, I think it is too early for blight. Meanwhile, frost damage at this time of year is common.
Thanks.
Blightspy seems to say it shouldn't be blight YET

https://blightspy.huttonltd.com/#/forecast
Someone been spraying what they shouldn’t nearby?
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Re: Advice for a hopeless gardener

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jansman wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:59 am
jennyjj01 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:33 pm
GillyBee wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:59 pm I am not convinced that is blight. I can't seen anything "fungal fluffy growth" and I have always seen at least a little of that with a bad/collapsed plant.
All about blight here with pics.
https://horticulture.co.uk/potatoes/blight/
While this is frost damage
https://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/in ... ew;id=1928


The professionals don't expect to see blight for a couple of months yet. Even with climate change & volunteers, I think it is too early for blight. Meanwhile, frost damage at this time of year is common.
Thanks.
Blightspy seems to say it shouldn't be blight YET

https://blightspy.huttonltd.com/#/forecast
Someone been spraying what they shouldn’t nearby?
I very much doubt it. I've sprayed nothing, and neighbouring plots are run by seniors who seem to know what they are doing. Plus this was in the middle of my middle bed and other spuds in that bed are fine,

Might it be that disease had eliminated from the volunteer spud tuber? I did get blight last year in a couple of nearby tomatoes which were growing concurrently with last years spuds..

Or might it just be damage from replanting the spud after taking it up to dig the plot?

I'll monitor the situation and report back.
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Re: Advice for a hopeless gardener

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jansman wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:59 am
jennyjj01 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:33 pm
GillyBee wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:59 pm I am not convinced that is blight. I can't seen anything "fungal fluffy growth" and I have always seen at least a little of that with a bad/collapsed plant.
All about blight here with pics.
https://horticulture.co.uk/potatoes/blight/
While this is frost damage
https://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/in ... ew;id=1928


The professionals don't expect to see blight for a couple of months yet. Even with climate change & volunteers, I think it is too early for blight. Meanwhile, frost damage at this time of year is common.
Thanks.
Blightspy seems to say it shouldn't be blight YET

https://blightspy.huttonltd.com/#/forecast
Someone been spraying what they shouldn’t nearby?
I very much doubt it. I've sprayed nothing, and neighbouring plots are run by seniors who seem to know what they are doing. Plus this was in the middle of my middle bed and other spuds in that bed are fine,

Might it be that disease had eliminated from the volunteer spud tuber? I did get blight last year in a couple of nearby tomatoes which were growing concurrently with last years spuds..

Or might it just be damage from replanting the spud after taking it up to dig the plot?

I concur with GillyBee that it looks more like frost damage

I'll monitor the situation and report back.
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Re: Advice for a hopeless gardener

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jennyjj01 wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 7:20 am Thanks.
Blightspy seems to say it shouldn't be blight YET

https://blightspy.huttonltd.com/#/forecast
I'll monitor the situation and report back.
OK..... So Who likes spuds?

Or more specifically what critter has been chowing down on the foliage of my spud plants.
About 1/3 of crop growing just fine and dandy with no or very little leaf damage. About 1/3 with some leaf damage and about 1/3 with total leaf destruction down to a stump.

What little b45t4rd is eating them and how do I train it to eat marestail instead.... Or get it to go away?

Bed is loamy soil. Not earthed up yet. No wooden surround. Some of the spuds were in dips which might had encouraged critters?

Similar story with my onions which all are getting nibbled on. Indeed. My runner beans are getting slaughtered too.


Note from the pics, that the soil is crazed like arid desert, but the soil is moist and a bit clumpy.
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Re: Advice for a hopeless gardener

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Blight is an issue right now,both domestically and nationally too. The potatoes coming from shops are far from the best,and that’s an understatement!
It’s rather interesting that the self setting spuds in our heaps are doing ok right now though.Looking at news Mrs J has made sure we have tinned spuds and dried potatoes too.
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