pigs slaughter - not for the squeamish. Be warned!

[the-gnole]

[scoobie]

Everyone just breeeeaaathee....
There is always more than one side of each story and everyone has different views on life because we have different backgrounds.
In my opinion slaughter of animals shouldn't be discussed online and just because it's legal it doesn't mean it's right. You can point the person in the right direction, eg. courses, experienced slaughterman, etc. but not show pictures/videos and say "this is where you hit the head with your axe to chop it off...." There are a lot of things that you can learn from others online that could be usefull post SHTF but slaughter of animals doesn't belong here. It's a usefull skill if you're a meat eater but that should be learnt properly. And it's not just the welfare of the animals but the person's intending to eat it too. Imagine what would happen if a whole family ate beef for dinner that went bad/got infected and noone noticed and YOU have given the advice on how to kill the cow and prepare the meat....
There are too many weird people out there.

I disagree. Finding out information about these kind of things can help you get set in your mind if you want to learn more, or feel that you can't do it at all, and need to find someone to slaughter and prep the meat for you if you are ever in that situation.

I do feel that its one of those things where you most definitely need to be shown how to do it properly, for *all* the reasons mentioned previously.

[Technik]

Yes, this is one of those things that you have to be shown.

Finding out information is good but I feel that many will actually want to try it out. When they realise that they have to pay for a course or pay for Jansman's fuel to come over and show them, they may think "I've seen a youtube video and a couple people gave me some hints on preppers on how to kill my pig so I'll give it a go, if all else fails I could always use the chainsaw and as long as I don't cut my finger who cares...."

If you learn about electricity online then you can only electrocute yourself, if you learn about archery online then you may hurt your stupid friend who volunteered to hold an apple on top of his head but if you learn about slaughter online then you may cause unneccesery suffering to an animal that HAS NOT volunteered to be tortured an killed.

How would you verify if a person actually knows how to do it? They may say that they have done it, they may even give details of how it's done but what if they saw it in a movie and think that this is the way to do it...

[preppingsu]

Yes, this is one of those things that you have to be shown.

Finding out information is good but I feel that many will actually want to try it out. When they realise that they have to pay for a course or pay for Jansman's fuel to come over and show them, they may think "I've seen a youtube video and a couple people gave me some hints on preppers on how to kill my pig so I'll give it a go, if all else fails I could always use the chainsaw and as long as I don't cut my finger who cares...."

If you learn about electricity online then you can only electrocute yourself, if you learn about archery online then you may hurt your stupid friend who volunteered to hold an apple on top of his head but if you learn about slaughter online then you may cause unneccesery suffering to an animal that HAS NOT volunteered to be tortured an killed.

How would you verify if a person actually knows how to do it? They may say that they have done it, they may even give details of how it's done but what if they saw it in a movie and think that this is the way to do it...

And if an individual chooses to do anything after watching only a youtube video then more fool them!
Slaughtering is a skill I would like to learn and I will pay to learn. However, I am under no illusion that this will be an easy task and I may not have the guts (pardon the pun) or the physical strength to do it.

[diamond lil]

Personally I'm very tired of slaughtering pigs and not all that keen on bacon anyway. Fosscool, are you still in here ? Is this enough info for you? Please say yes!

[scoobie]

Yes, this is one of those things that you have to be shown.

Finding out information is good but I feel that many will actually want to try it out. When they realise that they have to pay for a course or pay for Jansman's fuel to come over and show them, they may think "I've seen a youtube video and a couple people gave me some hints on preppers on how to kill my pig so I'll give it a go, if all else fails I could always use the chainsaw and as long as I don't cut my finger who cares...."

If you learn about electricity online then you can only electrocute yourself, if you learn about archery online then you may hurt your stupid friend who volunteered to hold an apple on top of his head but if you learn about slaughter online then you may cause unneccesery suffering to an animal that HAS NOT volunteered to be tortured an killed.

How would you verify if a person actually knows how to do it? They may say that they have done it, they may even give details of how it's done but what if they saw it in a movie and think that this is the way to do it...

*sigh* I'm so tired of the negativity b.s on this thread and in this forum. This is supposed to be a place to learn skills. Or a place to find out more, if we can't do that here, I might as well close the site!

[smileyt]

Oh people, come on - calm down. I imagine poor Fosscool has fast disappeared into the ether by now.

Obviously this is a contentious issue. Hopefully no-one on this site (because you've got to have at least a modicum of common sense to be a prepper) would decide to have a DIY home slaughter.

I hope we are not going to let one big argument derail the whole site.

Sheesh - who'da thunk a vegan would be pouring oil on troubled waters on a pig slaughtering thread?!

[TomW]

Going back to the original posts request for advice...

The real knack to animal processing , to me, is in the butchering and it is something you can get from a book though experience will soon make it a lot easier and neater. If you can get a butcher to visit and give you help then great but if not don't be afraid to go for it. Put two strong screw eyes up where you intend to process and hang the animal by its rear legs. Having drop on the floor is not a good thing Show it respect and use absolutely everything. Pigs are great because there is nothing that must go to waste! Be prepared for the amount of meat etc you'll get. Have the freezer space or required materials for other preservation techniques ready to go so nothing will spoil and be wasted. Read through the information and examine the diagrams 2 or 3 times before starting and keep the info handy (photocopy suggested) so you can refer back all the time.
The appropriate tools are also very handy, particularly a bone saw! Keep your knife sharp throughout and watch where your cutting particularly while skinning

Good luck, I hope the whole process goes well for you!

[diamond lil]

Can I say a big thank you to our wee Smileyt who is a vegan and yet who came in here to pour oil on troubled waters, which was good of her. Ty pet !
Fosscool please come back and acknowledge everybodys input. Well the helpful ones anyway!

[Technik]

Yes, this is one of those things that you have to be shown.

Finding out information is good but I feel that many will actually want to try it out. When they realise that they have to pay for a course or pay for Jansman's fuel to come over and show them, they may think "I've seen a youtube video and a couple people gave me some hints on preppers on how to kill my pig so I'll give it a go, if all else fails I could always use the chainsaw and as long as I don't cut my finger who cares...."

If you learn about electricity online then you can only electrocute yourself, if you learn about archery online then you may hurt your stupid friend who volunteered to hold an apple on top of his head but if you learn about slaughter online then you may cause unneccesery suffering to an animal that HAS NOT volunteered to be tortured an killed.

How would you verify if a person actually knows how to do it? They may say that they have done it, they may even give details of how it's done but what if they saw it in a movie and think that this is the way to do it...

*sigh* I'm so tired of the negativity b.s on this thread and in this forum. This is supposed to be a place to learn skills. Or a place to find out more, if we can't do that here, I might as well close the site!

Where am I being negative here scoobie? Just because I have a different opinion it doesn't mean that it's negative. As for every forum there will be people that disagree, people will have different views and opinions, what's wrong with that? I agree that it should be all polite.