Milton Fluid

[Vespa]

I've just read that Milton Fluid can be used to turn "grey" water into drinking water. Is this true? Can anyone confirm this?

2.5ml milton is enough to sterilise 5L of water. At that rate a 1L bottle (£2.39 from Tesco) would make 2000L (2 Tonnes) of water fit to drink.

If it's true then I think a 1L bottle is worth it's place in any ones home.

[jansman]

If that is the case, this is a SUPERB item to stock. I will check this out.

[Vespa]

I read it 1st at the following link, post 5

http://www.pugliachat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=133

I've since found this at the Co-op Pharmacy

http://www.co-operativepharmacy.co.uk/M ... id-2399376

Look on the tab "How to Use" towards the bottom where it gives a "Travel Tip"

I wouldn't keep a bottle in my BOB or EDC (regular steri-tabs are lighter) but a couple of 1L bottles at home would be a good idea I think.

Edit to add. just been on the Milton website (why didn't I go there 1st ) and it can be used for drinking water.

http://www.milton-tm.com/caravanning_and_camping.html

[Squirrel hunter]

Water for our property is collected from our roof in a stone cisterna or delivered by tanker, so it is only used for washing, flushing loos etc. To improve the quality of the water I have added Amuchina soluzione disinfettante (very much like Milton), which works well.

If we are talking of rain water being Grey water then I would be more than happy drinking it after adding a little Milton, or indeed any shop bought bleach in the right measures.

I would be a little more stringent if the grey water was used Bath, basin, sink, type water, Black water is more along that contaminated with bodily waste, Urine and Faeces especially.

The cheapest method of adding chlorine to water is to use plain, unscented household bleach (5% sodium hypochlorite). Add one drop (0.05ml) per litre – two if the water is cloudy and leave for at least 30 minutes.

Also a lot cheaper than Milton, in most cases.

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Pool shock is also a useful product to keep, one tub can do tens of thousands of litres, but must be used very carefully.

How to Make Chlorine Bleach from Pool Shock

Straight off the EPA site...

We bought a 5 lb. bottle of "Shock" from Walmart for $10.97, you can find it in the pool chemical section. Make sure that it is the "Calcium Hypochlorite" not the "Sodium". MAKE SURE IT HAS NO OTHER ADDITIVES!!!!!!!!!!!

This 5 lb. bottle makes 640 US gallons of "stock chlorine" (eliminates purchasing 640 gallons of bleach). Each of these 640 US gallons of stock chlorine disinfects 200 US gallons of water. For a total of 128,000 US gallons of clean drinking water for the cost of one bottle of "Shock". And think of the space it'll save.

Directions are at http://www.epa.gov/ogwdw000/faq/emerg.html or as follows:

GRANULAR CALCIUM HYPOCHLORITE.

Add and dissolve one heaping teaspoon of high-test granular calcium hypochlorite (approximately 1/4 ounce) for each two US gallons of water. The mixture will produce a "stock chlorine" solution of approximately 500 mg/L, since the calcium hypochlorite has an available chlorine equal to 70 percent of its weight. (THESE STOCK CHLORINE GALLONS ARE LIKE BLEACH GALLONS)

To disinfect water, add the clorine solution in the ratio of one part of chlorine solution to each 100 parts of water to be treated. This is roughly equal to adding 1 pint (16 0z.) of stock chlorine to each 12.5 US gallons of water to be disinfected. To remove any objectionable chlorine odor, aerate the water by allowing the water to stand exposed to the air for a few hours
or by pouring it from one clean container to another several times.

As always if the water is colored or cloudy add more of the solution (EPA says for regular Chlorine Bleach to double the amount of chlorine used).

12.5 US Gallons is equal to 10 UK Gallons, or 4/5ths
approximately 1/4 ounce US is approximately 1/4 ounce UK

[Moony]

I believe the advantage of "pool shock" over bleach is that pool shock keeps indefinately in crystal / powder form that you buy it in, while liquid bleach loses potency after a while. The disadvatage I've found after searching around a bit is finding stuff that you are sure doesnt have nasty anti-rusting / biocides / other additives that you don't really want to be drinking. As these additives are all useful for the intended purpose (keeping pool water clean) it's hard to be sure you are not buying something that's potentially harmful - it doesnt tend to have nice clear labels that say "this stuff is ok for drinking water "
If anyone can point me to a particular brand / product available in UK that they know is ok, that'd be useful

[Bear86]

I already have some Milton tablets as they are easier to store but at those calculation 2000 liters a bottle, i am going to pick myself one up Then i should be stocked up on sterilizing stuff

[Squirrel hunter]

If anyone can point me to a particular brand / product available in UK that they know is ok, that'd be useful

http://www.ukpoolstore.co.uk/acatalog/S ... s.html#a90

http://www.ukpoolstore.co.uk/acatalog/U ... ablets.pdf

I wonder how much of the other chemicals that they put in some types of pool shock, such as anti-rust, biocides stuff you would have to ingest via drinking water to make it dangerous, bearing in mind to sterilise water for consumption is something like .05ml per 1000ml, might be worth looking up.

[jansman]

Water for our property is collected from our roof in a stone cisterna or delivered by tanker, so it is only used for washing, flushing loos etc. To improve the quality of the water I have added Amuchina soluzione disinfettante (very much like Milton), which works well.

If we are talking of rain water being Grey water then I would be more than happy drinking it after adding a little Milton, or indeed any shop bought bleach in the right measures.

I would be a little more stringent if the grey water was used Bath, basin, sink, type water, Black water is more along that contaminated with bodily waste, Urine and Faeces especially.

The cheapest method of adding chlorine to water is to use plain, unscented household bleach (5% sodium hypochlorite). Add one drop (0.05ml) per litre – two if the water is cloudy and leave for at least 30 minutes.

Also a lot cheaper than Milton, in most cases.

Pool shock is also a useful product to keep, one tub can do tens of thousands of litres, but must be used very carefully.

How to Make Chlorine Bleach from Pool Shock

Straight off the EPA site...

We bought a 5 lb. bottle of "Shock" from Walmart for $10.97, you can find it in the pool chemical section. Make sure that it is the "Calcium Hypochlorite" not the "Sodium". MAKE SURE IT HAS NO OTHER ADDITIVES!!!!!!!!!!!

This 5 lb. bottle makes 640 gallons of "stock chlorine" (eliminates purchasing 640 gallons of bleach). Each of these 640 gallons of stock chlorine disinfects 200 gallons of water. For a total of 128,000 gallons of clean drinking water for the cost of one bottle of "Shock". And think of the space it'll save.

Directions are at http://www.epa.gov/ogwdw000/faq/emerg.html or as follows:

GRANULAR CALCIUM HYPOCHLORITE.

Add and dissolve one heaping teaspoon of high-test granular calcium hypochlorite (approximately 1/4 ounce) for each two gallons of water. The mixture will produce a "stock chlorine" solution of approximately 500 mg/L, since the calcium hypochlorite has an available cchlorine equal to 70
percent of its weight. (THESE STOCK CHLORINE GALLONS ARE LIKE BLEACH GALLONS)

To disinfect water, add the clorine solution in the ratio of one part of chlorine solution to each 100 parts of water to be treated. This is roughly equal to adding 1 pint (16 0z.) of stock chlorine to each 12.5 gallons of water to be disinfected. To remove any objectionable chlorine odor, aerate the water by allowing the water to stand exposed to the air for a few hours
or by pouring it from one clean container to another several times.

As always if the water is colored or cloudy add more of the solution (EPA says for regular Chlorine Bleach to double the amount of chlorine used).

Only problem,this is American. Milton is an English name. This is UK preppers. Thanks for the link anyway. Another problem is with the Yanks- they have a different measurement system to the whole of the rest of the world!

[Squirrel hunter]

The Milton info is quite seperate from the pool shock info though.

The measurements can easily be adapted, 16 fl oz is a US pint, 20fl oz is the UK pint, so a difference of 20%.

Put instructions for mixing in UK measurements on paper and laminate and keep with the product.

[fuzzysweets]

http://www.milton-tm.com/caravanning_and_camping.html

Just went on the Milton site and even they say about using it to make water safe to drink so it must be okay