Home and self-defence

[moocher]

Near st.briavels mate

lol used to be in sling so not far away,now in monmouth town

[skippy]

Some thoughts

Just to add to the mix in this hypothetical senario . . . if you are in your own area and have the advantage of home ground the odds of an "encounter" are in your favour. 3 to 1 is the usual ratio mentioned for aggressors to defenders for the aggressors to have any chance of success. If you have prepared obstacles, defences, strong points etc then this figure gets even more in your favour however this assumes that both sides are equally aware, well armed, trained and motivated. (there are few people more motivated than those defending their loved ones or homes). This applies to one person in a home invasion type of civil disorder, right through to communities defending their own in TEOTWAWKI.
So the odds are on your side. Ten of you to thirty of them (or more)
Another point to think on is the determination of an aggressor. Are they really willing to get hurt or get caught trying to steal your valuables. Or in a more "out there" senario, is food so scarce that they are willing to get err..... *seriously inconvienenced* just to steal yours.
So have a think about this thread and distill the essence out of it. Male or female , young or old (old age and trechery will overcome youth and skill) infirm or fit, in situations of rule of law or without rule of law, nothing stops you from planning a well thought out deterance or defence of your home, person, vehicle, BOL or BIL.

skippy

[diamond lil]

"(old age and trechery will overcome youth and skill)"
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absolutely

[Huntsman]

This is a subject that constantly plagues my mind, I live within a day or twos walk from Bristol trying to be as anonymous as possible and about 4-5 miles from a town of about 8000 I live in a community mostly full of old people there's about 40 of us and about 16 houses and one road through our little hamlet. Now I struggle to imagine this community being able to realisticly stand up to a mob of marauders etc. maybe mine and a few of the younger families about 10 of us could make a stand? I mean from what I know there's my small collection of guns 3-5 trying not to be specific mostly rifles but a shotgun is in there. And I know my 2 of my neighbours shoot, no idea what though and Im sure the local farmer who lives at the other side of the village possessed a firearm. But still however close knit a community we would effectively be sitting ducks. We could resist but we could be over run if the marauaders were savage and brave enough. It troubles me because there's only so much I can do...

Try to make friends with your fellow shooter neighbours. Pick up some walkie-talkies (Clas Ohlen do PMR ones at £20 the pair, you can chose one of 8 radio-bands) to hand out in the event of news / anticipation of anything that might cause problems for you & your neighbours - even extreme weather is a good excuse, "just in case" the cell-phone network goes down / jammed up when SHTF. Ditto with binoculars (although if your neighbours shoot they probably have field glasses anyway).

Now let's say post-SHTF you have three or four of you, most with shotguns and one with a rifle, communicating with walkie-talkies, in territory that you know like the back of your hand. It's odds one that any wondering gang will be less well armed, less knowledgeable and less well coordinated.




Don't forget to watch out for your friendlies if you have arranged for them to bug-out to you!!

It is for these reason that I think the UK is the opposite to USA, in terms of rural areas being less safe to flee into post-SHTF if you don't have friends / BOL out there already - in the UK it's country folk who are better armed (2million licenced shotguns!). Certainly if I had to bug out to countryside and was passing near villages / farm houses, I would try to stay hidden or failing that attempt to appear unthreatening, and I'd keep moving, out of range! Unless I was desperate for essentials / shelter and then I'd attempt to parley / trade somehow.

As I mentioned in my post above, the average scrote will probably shit themselves and run at the first shot that passes close to them.

I have actually never thought about it from unmalicious survivors point of view, I mean I have to admit if the s had hit the fan, even if they were holding a white flag I would be beyond extremely cautious, unless the sheer sight of a stranger walking up the rode gave me a heart attack first.... I'm not sure what your best way to approach country folk would be other than to walk very slowly up the rode arms in the air with a white flag and stop maybe 30 - 20 yards out to talk and even then it would be high risk. I'm really not sure how someone could safely approach us.... Guess you could hold up a sign saying " don't shoot, it's me rio!"

[TomW]

You say about scrotes crapping themself at the first shot and I totally agree. The trouble is with so much emphasis on being the big hard man they are almost certainly going to return to save face. Whereas a wiser person would take heed of the warning I think your average scrote is too thick to know the saying "discretion is the better part of valour".

As for making an approach to other survivors " time spent in reconnaissance is seldom wasted". Keep a healthy distance, observe there movements, take note of the group dynamic, whose in charge, do they get stuff done by threats or just a request, do they take on board others ideas or just dictate? Ultimately trust your gut and have an escape plan, don't reveal your true numbers and if there's only you make it sound like theres more...

[the7ps]

Ive read on here numerous time's about preppers using a sling shot so today I was back in the UK and treated myself to a pro - diablo sling shot.
I have told the OH it is for target practice in the basement but give me a few decades of practice and God forbid the first scavenger who comes looking for my last rolo...

[chillihound]

You say about scrotes crapping themself at the first shot and I totally agree. The trouble is with so much emphasis on being the big hard man they are almost certainly going to return to save face. Whereas a wiser person would take heed of the warning I think your average scrote is too thick to know the saying "discretion is the better part of valour".

As for making an approach to other survivors " time spent in reconnaissance is seldom wasted". Keep a healthy distance, observe there movements, take note of the group dynamic, whose in charge, do they get stuff done by threats or just a request, do they take on board others ideas or just dictate? Ultimately trust your gut and have an escape plan, don't reveal your true numbers and if there's only you make it sound like theres more...

lmao! ive never heard anyone else use the word scrotes before.
stealth, recon, escape and evade. the last one is my speciallity =)
great advice there buddy

[the7ps]

Well, it seems I am not alone...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... case-.html

[preppingsu]

Well, it seems I am not alone...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... case-.html

some great ideas for useful 'things' to have scattered around the house!