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Manclife

Re: Legal or not

Post by Manclife »

a few questions and I'll be able to tell you if its legal or not:
1) Does it lock or can it lock?
2) Does the blade fold back into the handle?
3) How long is the blade (all of it including the curve?)
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Re: Legal or not

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http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/198 ... ve-weapons

Theres the legislation! Honestly it depends on why you have it, where you have it and what you are doing with it when stopped! It could be a totally legal knife but if you have it open in your hand in the middle of a crowd for no reason you are going to have a bad day.
A big thing to remember in regards to if you do find yourself arrested under this legislation, its not for the Police to prove you are doing something wrong, the burden of proof lies with you to prove you are doing something right! Be careful!
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Re: Legal or not

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Manclife wrote:a few questions and I'll be able to tell you if its legal or not:
1) Does it lock or can it lock?
2) Does the blade fold back into the handle?
3) How long is the blade (all of it including the curve?)

1) Not Now
2) Yep
3) Sub 3"
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Re: Legal or not

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TJCNI wrote:http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/198 ... ve-weapons

Theres the legislation! Honestly it depends on why you have it, where you have it and what you are doing with it when stopped! It could be a totally legal knife but if you have it open in your hand in the middle of a crowd for no reason you are going to have a bad day.
A big thing to remember in regards to if you do find yourself arrested under this legislation, its not for the Police to prove you are doing something wrong, the burden of proof lies with you to prove you are doing something right! Be careful!
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Manclife

Re: Legal or not

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tanstaafl wrote: 1) Not Now
2) Yep
3) Sub 3"
Then it's legal and you don't need ANY reason to be carrying it. If you'd like links to the many and long winded cases that support this then I'll gladly post them.
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Re: Legal or not

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TJCNI wrote: A big thing to remember in regards to if you do find yourself arrested under this legislation, its not for the Police to prove you are doing something wrong, the burden of proof lies with you to prove you are doing something right! Be careful!
Not quite true as they have to prove the item is illegal first so does it have a fixed blade, does it lock, how longs the blade etc. Obviously this will be easy to evidence as the arresting officer will seize the knife and write these points in his statement however this still has to be 'beyond a reasonable doubt' The defence of say "I use it for work" will only be on the 'balance of probabilities' which is a much lower burden of proof.

You are right in that waving it around a nightclub will still probably get you locked up but under different legislation.
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Re: Legal or not

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Manclife wrote:
tanstaafl wrote: 1) Not Now
2) Yep
3) Sub 3"
Then it's legal and you don't need ANY reason to be carrying it. If you'd like links to the many and long winded cases that support this then I'll gladly post them.

Yep thats my opinion too, cheers all for your input

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Re: Legal or not

Post by Colin KC »

Sorry Jase, it's a locking knife!

Can it be locked in the open position? Yes. Therefore it is a locking knife.

Take the barrel knife (it's essentially a friction folder that can fit inside a "barrel" that then makes it a locking folder)

Or the various Opinels with the twisty ring thingy, locking folder.
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Re: Legal or not

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I guessing you didn't read the bit where he said it no longer locks.
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Re: Legal or not

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Jase, carry a decent SAK less likely to cause problems as even the most retarded Plod should be happy with that. Of course it will all depend on your attitude and how much of an a**hole the Plod is.
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