I think most of the politicians themselves would agree in some part to my cynical observation.
It's nothing personal. Over the years we've had some pretty unpleasant arguments erupt over the P word and various politicians. It may seem a bit draconian, but necessary.
lol, don't worry I was teasing, politics and religion can make an enemy of anyone.
it's how you conduct yourself in real life (and towards others) that trumps any personal viewpoint.
I always tend to think that the logic has a serious flaw not that I'm actually going to argue against what farnet has written. The flaw I believe is that in looking at low yield , tactical weapons rather than the whopping big everyone dies type of thing made famous with MAD is that it actually makes a nuclear exchange more likely when those in power start to believe that a nuclear war is something that can actually be won.
grenfell wrote:I always tend to think that the logic has a serious flaw not that I'm actually going to argue against what farnet has written. The flaw I believe is that in looking at low yield , tactical weapons rather than the whopping big everyone dies type of thing made famous with MAD is that it actually makes a nuclear exchange more likely when those in power start to believe that a nuclear war is something that can actually be won.
There's also that despite a low yield EMP type attack, a country like ours that has its own nuclear CASD could result in a few flying back the other way, that's kind of the point of it all. I'm not sure that England would be going to the World Cup if say for example..... Russia had launched a nuclear attack (even a low yield one). I still think England should take the same moral high ground as Scotland has and not attend the World Cup.
grenfell wrote:I always tend to think that the logic has a serious flaw not that I'm actually going to argue against what farnet has written. The flaw I believe is that in looking at low yield , tactical weapons rather than the whopping big everyone dies type of thing made famous with MAD is that it actually makes a nuclear exchange more likely when those in power start to believe that a nuclear war is something that can actually be won.
There's also that despite a low yield EMP type attack, a country like ours that has its own nuclear CASD could result in a few flying back the other way, that's kind of the point of it all. I'm not sure that England would be going to the World Cup if say for example..... Russia had launched a nuclear attack (even a low yield one). I still think England should take the same moral high ground as Scotland has and not attend the World Cup.
Oh, did Scotland qualify this time then?
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain~anon
katilea wrote:Are you saying it's not likely then?
My post seems to have been closed, but seems others are still allowed to discuss possibility of WW3? Mine was considered as entering the realms of fantasy, (though personally I think its more likely than a 'zombie apocalypse') and I'm checking everyday to see if there's anything recent on the chances of Putin starting a nuclear (or cyber) war.
Besides isn't the WHOLE POINT of a preppers forum that you are preparing for (and discussing what to do) in the event of different scenario's? some like the end of the world and zombies which are highly unlikely! To be honest we're more likely for Putin to wait until a really busy time to target UK's power supplies with a cyber attack - like Easter coming up and if we do get snow and freezing temps (AGAIN!!!) what a perfect time (from his viewpoint) to choose to throw the country into chaos by targeting our power and water systems! It may only be a cyber attack rather than a nuclear one but still many people could and probably would die (think how many people head away for Easter with caravans etc and the last periods of snow has shown people don't all have the common sense to stay at home even if snow and ice is forecast!).
I'm still researching myself and found people wearing white in hiroshima had less burns etc than people wearing darker colours. Think I mentioned it in one of my posts about possibility of white reflecting radiation more than absorbing it, and saw mention of people being told to paint white paint on their windows to reflect radiation. It seems even the special radiation suits online don't protect from absorbing 'gamma rays' and some are costing over a thousand pounds. Maybe it would be better to try and REFLECT as many rays as possible? By wearing white head to toe too?
I found a white tent that has a very dark black out lining (inside..commonly used as sensory areas for disabled kids) I was wondering if this would offer a bit more protection than hiding in a wardrobe or under blankets in the hall? As firstly the white would hopefully reflect off radiation that made it through the walls into the hallway and secondly it would have a thicker lining inside of the tent because of the 'blackout' element of it? so be 'denser' than a regular tent material? I'm also thinking of foam floor mats that fit together like jigsaws. (I have some I'd got to make a play area for my dog when we was a puppy) and whatever books i have, to line the inside of the tent, though I don't have many books to be honest. I tend to read ebooks cos its easier to enlarge the print and set a brighter backlight/contrast.
My only other thought of an hiding place was the small cupboard in the hall but it has the mains electric panel in there and my worry would be fire and being trapped in there if it caught fire, though it gives me extra walls between me and the outside walls (the doors are wood). I'm not convinced sharing a tiny space (and it is tiny could only sit with my back against the wall, couldn't lie down in it even without the dog in it with me too) with an electrical box would still be safer than in the hallway in a larger white tent with thicker material. I'd be worried about running out of air in there too with the doors closed to stop radiation coming through.
My other thought was to using the cupboard but having the doors open so more blankets etc could be draped over the the top of the open doors, a small tent may then fit from the back of the cupboard out lengthways across the hall towards the radiator on the opposite wall. Radiator is metal right? from viewpoint of radiation passing through both the wall and then metal would that offer more protection? .. other things could be placed next to the ends of the opened doors to drape covers over to extend the den right up to the opposite wall. There's still the issue of the mains electrical box been on the back wall of the cupboard and me then being closer to the front door than if we were further up the hall.
I've got more food in anyway including extra cold food incase of power cuts but also because we have the snow forecast for up to 2 weeks over Easter up here, so even without Putin misbehaving we have potential of powercuts and me not being able to get out for a week or more!
It would stand to sense if you painted the windows with a whitewash solution it would deflect some nuclear power or radiation
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