What medical equipment do you have?

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tanstaafl
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Re: What medical equipment do you have?

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essgee23 wrote:
tanstaafl wrote:I have a few FAKs (EDC,BOB and Car) I made most up myself but this http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000 ... 03_s00_i00 got great reviews and at £8.99 I thought it was worth a punt, seems pretty good with room to add extras.


Contents:

2 Instant ice packs
1 Transparent semi-permeable dressing 6cm x 10cm
1 Transparent semi-permeable dressing 6cm x 7cm
1 Pair of scissors
14 Alcohol preparation pads
2 Anti-septic cleansing wipes
2 Soap wipes
2 Cleansing wipes
3 Anti-mosquito wipes
1 Adhesive wound dressing 6cm x 7cm
1 Adhesive wound dressing 6cm x 10cm
2 Conforming bandages 6cm x 400cm
2 Conforming bandages 8cm x 400cm
2 Conforming bandages 5cm x 450cm
1 Eye pad 4.5cm x 6.5cm
1 Pair tweezers
1 Emergency silver blanket
15 Assorted plasters
1 Abdominal pad 12.7cm x 23cm
10 Safety pins
2 Pairs surgical gloves
1 Airway/protective mouthpiece
1 Triangular bandage 90cm x 90cm x 127cm
1 Thick PBT bandage (elastic gauze bandage)
Dimensions: 24cm (9.5") x 19cm (7") x 8cm (3")




Yep thats whats in there though I have not checked yet, I think one reviewer said the contents can vary slightly (Mine has 2 foil blankets) the bag is very good,
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essgee23 wrote:A very complex thread 12mp82 in my opinion.

Do we go basic and use a small FAK and minimal tools and rely on the fact we managed prior to all these being available? (yes with altered mortality rates maybe :D ) With a hefty dose of common sense and logic and trying to be practical?

The likes of making torniquets from shirt sleeves and slings from a bra etc... and the 'get me hot water and towels' for childbirth occasions. I for one do not fancy having to go through helping deliver babies thanks. ;)

As for equipment, did you miss superglue? and some of those quick clot things (which i dont have and need to read up on)

I have pretty much what you listed, my airways are in need of replacing so will get on with that.

Have a good manual sphyg for blood pressure, but depending on the situation- is it going to be that important??

And what good are these things if we dont practise how to use them effectively or even learn in the first place...time to google that first aid course I've been meaning to get booked up. :D
I look at it another way SG, many people take equipment when they go on holiday abroad, not because they know how to use it but because if something happens to them someone else might know how to use it.

My list is by no means comprehensive as I haven't written down a lot of the stuff I have tucked away in my secret lock-up ;)

I am hoping others will add to the list of kit rather than reading lots of posts about how many paracetamol or aspirin they have tucked away, all very good, but sometimes a little more might be needed like a sling or some micropore tape.

It would be nice to be able to use all of it personally, but hoping someone else might be able too is also good.
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fair point. ;)

i'd rather know how to use what im carrying, others might not even know you have it on you.- example if found wounded after shooting accident, people are likely to leg it and call for help rather than go ' ahh this chap must have x, y and z in his bag over there.....'

obviously if im unconscious it makes no odds anyway................... :roll: :?

but yes agree, i personally was getting swallowed up with trying to raise drugs awareness to people and should think outside more often :)
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Something I've looked at recently is a CAT tourniquet. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mediacal-Wareho ... 016&sr=8-1
Safe for use up to 2 hours or so I believe? (not loosing limbs) :)

12mp82 wrote:I look at it another way SG, many people take equipment when they go on holiday abroad, not because they know how to use it but because if something happens to them someone else might know how to use it.
I have to say, unfortunately, most people don't even know how to apply a triangle bandage (sling) for a broken collar bone. Not to mention that most people think I'm insane when telling them its completely safe to take the max dosage of paracetamol and ibuprofen together at the same time (providing of course its a one off and they have no allergies)... they think I'm trying to kill them :lol:
I believe that first aid courses should be made free on the NHS. They probably could have trained the whole country for a quarter of the price of the Olympics!


Another quick pointer, does anyone know where to get hold of blood clotting wipes? For hemophiliacs...


Blood sugar monitor is a good one too, adding to my list of bits now ;)
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tacticalprepper wrote:Something I've looked at recently is a CAT tourniquet. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mediacal-Wareho ... 016&sr=8-1
Safe for use up to 2 hours or so I believe? (not loosing limbs) :)

Blimey I got mine brand new for a fiver each :o

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http://rti-militarysurplus.com/epages/T ... es/Imprint

Not teaching people to suck eggs, but tourniquets in most instances should be used as a last resort. Direct pressure first with elevation.

The Cat system was introduced for traumatic limb damage/loss in Service personell who had Team medics present and helicopters a radio call away and a full trauma team waiting at the other end.
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Not teaching people to suck eggs, but tourniquets in most instances should be used as a last resort. Direct pressure first with elevation.

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just felt that should be highlighted

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How about IF YOU NEED A TOURNIQUET , YOUR STUFFED UNLESS THERE'S AN A+E VERY CLOSE BY
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poppypiesdad wrote:How about IF YOU NEED A TOURNIQUET , YOUR STUFFED UNLESS THERE'S AN A+E VERY CLOSE BY

:lol: :lol:

better, thanks

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poppypiesdad wrote:How about IF YOU NEED A TOURNIQUET , YOUR STUFFED UNLESS THERE'S AN A+E VERY CLOSE BY
I tend to disagree actually, here's a couple of scenarios: (second one is pretty far fetched, admittedly)

Every-day Life Scenario
Your living in a fairly rural area, miles away from anything. While you and a friend are doing some DIY at your home using a angle grinder and a cutting disk, your friend slips and deeply cuts their leg. In this case they have sliced through the femoral artery and blood is literally squirting across the room. You grab their hand, place it over the wound and tell them to hold down really firmly whilst (because your a prepper) you grab your comprehensive FAK containing a CAT tourniquet. You slip it over their leg and tighten it above the wound restricting the blood supply - stoppling the bleeding. You call an ambulance but they say they will be 30-45 minutes because of your rural location. But in this case, that would be absolutely fine because you have controlled the bleeding to what would be otherwise a fatal wound, and contrary to most peoples beliefs, your friend won't loose their leg over this time period either.

Far Fetched Scenario
There has been a collapse in society, people are running around the streets looting homes, and committing unthinkable crimes towards others. Most of the police and medical personnel have fled to look after their own families, and what little medical aid there is left has been overwhelmed by the wounded. You have decided to bug-in, and its now too late to change your mind. One by one all of the houses up your road are being broken into by small gangs, gathering food and supplies.... and your house is next up. Smashing through the window, a guy climbs in holding a knife. You hear him coming down the hall towards where you and your family members are hiding. There's no other option now but to try and defend your family so you jump out at him. Startled he slashes with his knife slicing your arm open and cutting your brachial artery. The stunned attacker runs back out your house leaving you wounded. But your a prepper... and you have a tourniquet! You slide it up your arm and use it to stop the bleeding, but there's not going to be any medical aid, at all. Your one step ahead, you knew that in a scenario like this your going to need some more advanced tools like a sterilized scalpel, ligatures, saline solution and a sutures, on top of your other items. A bit of gruesome surgery later and you can remove the tourniquet (although in this example almost definitely loosing your limb) but your not dead :D

I believe there is a need for a tourniquet in a FAK (well the more comprehensive kits anyway). It could be life-saving! ;)
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Can I ask , have you had training in how to use a tourniquet?

Because its not just a matter of cutting the blood supply off .

Just for the record I'm a ex combat medic who's used a tourniquet for real.

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