Value Range foods compared

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jennyjj01
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Vitamin c wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 8:53 am Anybody else noticed that the supermarkets seem to have a few foods that don't seem to be increasing in price as the rest ,I wonder if these foods are subsidised by the price of other foods so that a basic nutrition is covered.
Red kidney beans and pasta is what iv spotted have I missed any.
I'm sorry VC, my perception differs to yours. As I see it, absolute staples are going up ahead of other prices, if anything.
E.g. A Kilo bag of sugar used to be about 60p most places but is now 95p even at Lidl and Aldi. Cheapest pasta was for a long time 20p / 500g but then leapt to 25p and now 28p. That's a huge percentage increase.
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/p ... /297844134
Ordinary tins of supermarket own brand tinned soup were often about 45p Heinz could be had for 90p or so. But now Heinz is £1.60 and Tesco home brand is 60p
Semi skimmed Milk spent a long time about 85p for a 2 pinter. now it's £1.35 (+58%)
1kg Cheapest rice used to be 40p. It leapt to 45p then 48p (+20%)
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/p ... /300843799
You want some Uncle ben sauce with that? Previously £1 now £2 !!!!! (+100%)
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/p ... /309172305

McVities Digestives I can't remember when they jumped the £ but now £1.60 in ASDA

And don't get me started on the price of meat or veg. Long gone are 3 trays of meat for a tenner. You can't even do that with chicken.

These are increases WAY more than the stated inflation rate of 11% and more like 50%

Non food groceries on the same trend. Surcare Washing powder £6 to £7 in one step. Fairy washing up liquid now almost twice the price of petrol at £2.60/L. So they put it in smaller bottles.


Supermarkets are trying to compete on value range stuff, but it's fake competition in that ASDA only let you buy 3 items and Tesco or Morrisons have the price but then have none in stock. E.g. try finding Stockwell baked beans in Tesco.

I did my real world inflation list a month or so back. It would be eye watering to revisit that.
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I now have time. That’s wonderful. I drew up our consumption,and compared prices between our locals. Tesco,Aldi,and Asda. Quite a comparison. Tesco we’ve dealt with for years. Too expensive. Asda . Bluntly,CR£P! They are so up and down with supply. Aldi is very economical for the gear we need for larder and fridge. We are running through a HUGE tin/ pasta/ rice supply . No problem at all. But you know what? An example of increase; Pasta. Tesco/ Aldi value is up to 41p. Old price on storage 29P. Now I know that the percentage is high ,but it’s still cheap. When we married 32 years ago,prices were dearer and wages far less! An example is the aforementioned SUGAR. I have always home brewed. Up until recently,sugar was 65p per kilo everywhere. Now 95p. How much in 1990 ? And I remember this for making my beer : local co op …95p per kg!!!!! .We have more money coming in than then ,but have been used to buy very cheap food.Now it’s the price and probably still cheaper than 1990. We need to get practical and basic in this country. Grub is more important
than buying consumers cr*p ! Survival.Also,not only is price an issue,so is the waste . Most important.We are wasteful,and that’s bad.

Here at Chez Jansman the shelves are more than enough in the old fashioned kitchen pantry. 6’ x 4’ is as big as a shed!Then there’s the storage building outside! That will cut purchase right back as those staples are a year’s worth and more. Prepping,and a better investment than money with the Parasite Finance Industry. I’d sooner deal with a Farmer than a financial’expert’. But I won’t be any more negative than that.
As I have time, the value ranges have been compared and priced. Mrs J has reduced our spending,but frankly, it’s half of what it used to be! And no self denial ,but what we want! And pet foods are covered too. Planning.

Folks are going to have to deal with it. Better to put effort into recipes, economical shopping, and lack of wastage,instead of moaning. It is what it is. Adapt and survive. ;)
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Peas
I got the cheapo Greengrocer peas from Sainsburys. Often they are out of stock. They seem bigger than normal, and they are a bit hard. Not impressed. I might try Aldi next time.
Prices
Sains Greengrocer 94p/kg
Aldi Four Season 94p/kg
Sainsburys 1.8kg £1.05/kg takes up a lot of space
Sains 910g £1.32 getting expensive
Sains Petit Pois £1.65/kg
Birds Eye 800g £3.50/kg come on now, you having a laugh?
Sains Organic £3.50/kg I did used to buy these
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Frnc wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:03 pm Peas
I got the cheapo Greengrocer peas from Sainsburys. Often they are out of stock. They seem bigger than normal, and they are a bit hard. Not impressed. I might try Aldi next time.
Prices
Sains Greengrocer 94p/kg
Aldi Four Season 94p/kg
Sainsburys 1.8kg £1.05/kg takes up a lot of space
Sains 910g £1.32 getting expensive
Sains Petit Pois £1.65/kg
Birds Eye 800g £3.50/kg come on now, you having a laugh?
Sains Organic £3.50/kg I did used to buy these
Peas, I'm switching from tinned to frozen but also I hope to grow peas as a monster self sufficient crop. Dehydration might be the way to get them stored. Same with carrots, by touch wood
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jennyjj01 wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 1:05 pm
Frnc wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:03 pm Peas
I got the cheapo Greengrocer peas from Sainsburys. Often they are out of stock. They seem bigger than normal, and they are a bit hard. Not impressed. I might try Aldi next time.
Prices
Sains Greengrocer 94p/kg
Aldi Four Season 94p/kg
Sainsburys 1.8kg £1.05/kg takes up a lot of space
Sains 910g £1.32 getting expensive
Sains Petit Pois £1.65/kg
Birds Eye 800g £3.50/kg come on now, you having a laugh?
Sains Organic £3.50/kg I did used to buy these
Peas, I'm switching from tinned to frozen but also I hope to grow peas as a monster self sufficient crop. Dehydration might be the way to get them stored. Same with carrots, by touch wood
Peas were my only successful crop. The most productive was mangetout, because there's no waste. But I eat loads of peas, so had to still buy them. The mangetout were 'Golden Sweet' from Chiltern company. The other peas were Alderman, also from Chiltern.
If I remember correctly, you only get a few seeds as they are big, so I might need to get some more. I never got round to trying to save any. I think they died in the heat wave. They prefer cooler weather.
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jennyjj01 wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:36 am
Vitamin c wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 8:53 am Anybody else noticed that the supermarkets seem to have a few foods that don't seem to be increasing in price as the rest ,I wonder if these foods are subsidised by the price of other foods so that a basic nutrition is covered.
Red kidney beans and pasta is what iv spotted have I missed any.
I'm sorry VC, my perception differs to yours. As I see it, absolute staples are going up ahead of other prices, if anything.
E.g. A Kilo bag of sugar used to be about 60p most places but is now 95p even at Lidl and Aldi. Cheapest pasta was for a long time 20p / 500g but then leapt to 25p and now 28p. That's a huge percentage increase.
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/p ... /297844134
Ordinary tins of supermarket own brand tinned soup were often about 45p Heinz could be had for 90p or so. But now Heinz is £1.60 and Tesco home brand is 60p
Semi skimmed Milk spent a long time about 85p for a 2 pinter. now it's £1.35 (+58%)
1kg Cheapest rice used to be 40p. It leapt to 45p then 48p (+20%)
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/p ... /300843799
You want some Uncle ben sauce with that? Previously £1 now £2 !!!!! (+100%)
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/p ... /309172305

McVities Digestives I can't remember when they jumped the £ but now £1.60 in ASDA

And don't get me started on the price of meat or veg. Long gone are 3 trays of meat for a tenner. You can't even do that with chicken.

These are increases WAY more than the stated inflation rate of 11% and more like 50%

Non food groceries on the same trend. Surcare Washing powder £6 to £7 in one step. Fairy washing up liquid now almost twice the price of petrol at £2.60/L. So they put it in smaller bottles.


Supermarkets are trying to compete on value range stuff, but it's fake competition in that ASDA only let you buy 3 items and Tesco or Morrisons have the price but then have none in stock. E.g. try finding Stockwell baked beans in Tesco.

I did my real world inflation list a month or so back. It would be eye watering to revisit that.
Your so right on pricing and it is killing we did our big christmas shop last year for the same stuff i mean near as dam it everything the same it went from £150 2021 christmas to £302 this year and we had no lux goods on it just food all food and well the wife had a bottle of wine lol shhh don't tell the doctor , like jansman said we will all now have to adpet and if that means TRIPE for jen then so be it lol , we do try here to get the most out of everything we cook or grow .
I will say as someone who has been a brands snob on food when we first got up here and lidi and aldi and b and m and poundstrecher omg we had gone to heaven , we use to be in hertfordshire and as we were getting ready to move here they opened a aldi but here well omg we filled cupboards with food and everything and over time have switched to so called non branded stuff and find it as good if not better in some stuff
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steptoe wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 7:39 pm I will say as someone who has been a brands snob on food when we first got up here and lidi and aldi and b and m and poundstrecher omg we had gone to heaven , we use to be in hertfordshire and as we were getting ready to move here they opened a aldi but here well omg we filled cupboards with food and everything and over time have switched to so called non branded stuff and find it as good if not better in some stuff
Many of the non-branded products i'm trying are rubbish :(
It's not about snobbery when a cheap pack of non-mcvities digestives makes you gag. ASDA: I'm looking at you!

It's one thing to tell the difference between brands, but when it's rubbish, one has to draw the line.

I remember when the only B&M I knew about was the one at Southport. It was an amazing treat. But now they are everywhere and getting less different with every one that opens.
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Ohh home grown peas ours won a competition by Birdseye across Yorkshire schools a few years ago :lol: (schools crop got eaten by pigeons) my mum had grown a fair few .... Oh I used to work on goods in at a pea processing factory so we handpicked a small freezer bag from the crop of what were effectively petti pois by the time I'd graded them we ate the rest and the school got some gardening vouchers during the Jamie Oliver healthy school meals farce
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Aldi basic free range eggs medium (large are cruel) up 33% of a few months ago. Now £1.19, were 89p.
Say 6 months at most, that's 66% a year inflation rate.
For people who's income goes up little or nothing, and was low to start with, this is unsustainable.
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Frnc wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:09 am Aldi basic free range eggs medium (large are cruel) up 33% of a few months ago. Now £1.19, were 89p.
Say 6 months at most, that's 66% a year inflation rate.
For people who's income goes up little or nothing, and was low to start with, this is unsustainable.
Large are cruel? As a 25 year poultry keeper,I know they come from 1 year + old hens. ITS NATURE. Why is it cruel?
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Covid 19: After that level of weirdness ,any situation is certainly possible.

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