Bugging Out ?

[TeeDee]

ditto on almost everything you posted there.

with only a few exceptions imo.
but we can agree to disagree on those.

I'd be happy to hear your exceptions and why , you could well convert me.

[bulldogeagle]

TeeDee i do like some of your observations but, i do think you are a bit hard on the lone survivor, who knows what will happen post fall? there may be lots of lone survivors rather than larger groups, i personally think a large group is unworkable due to logistics and personalities, a small group maybe an extended family group makes more sense, although i still think a lone survivor would be easier to hide away and not get noticed, a large group would leave too many signs around. i havent been able to meet many preppers yet because of us all being spread around the country from Scotland all the way down to Cornwall, i have only met one so far that i KNOW i can trust and work with, but again the trouble is he is the other end of the country.

[TeeDee]

TeeDee i do like some of your observations but, i do think you are a bit hard on the lone survivor, who knows what will happen post fall? there may be lots of lone survivors rather than larger groups, i personally think a large group is unworkable due to logistics and personalities, a small group maybe an extended family group makes more sense, although i still think a lone survivor would be easier to hide away and not get noticed, a large group would leave too many signs around. i havent been able to meet many preppers yet because of us all being spread around the country from Scotland all the way down to Cornwall, i have only met one so far that i KNOW i can trust and work with, but again the trouble is he is the other end of the country.

To Me I just don't see this 'Mad Max' playing out , If the premise we are working on is a mass die off , then there will be plenty of tinned food for some time , however you'll need A range of varied foodstuffs over the long term to prosper rather than slowly die.

A group of people works better ( IMO ) because there is an economy of shared effort ie tasks are easier to manage with a certain number of people , simply put one person is going i think find it hard to by themself grow enough food , collect enough wood, collect the water , purify the water , stand guard ,go scavenging in the local are , forage the hedgerows , take care of sanitary requirments ,overwatch the Livestock , maintain the machinery and sleep.

I do think there will be some looters , people who won't/can't adapt to group environment and workload but i think they will be shortlived and have a hard life.
But mostly people need people , I can't work on a car engine AND turn over the ignition , I can't go out hunting and process the garden produce , I can't seriously injure myself and then take care of myself and apply first aid. I can't stand on stag and plant crops at the same time. I can't fire a rifle and cover my flanks at the same time.

Just my views. With a small community 10-20 people most tasks become easier to accomplish and a base level of support and assistance is put in place.

[bulldogeagle]

on the other hand a SMALL group of less than 10 or a lone survivor dont need so much food, water etc as a larger group, its all about scale, a large group will be noticed quicker because of noise, smoke, lights. my first thought post fall is to remain hidden, unnoticed and unmolested until the raiders are all killed off and things start getting (a bit) civilised again.

[silverfox]

I am curious as to why you have tripwires around your property? Do you live in a particularly bad area?

Ha ha the only bad thing near me is my dog , Nothing happens in sussex yet, but times are changing.

Lets just say there is more rural crime taking place these days and its the first line of tackling intruders. There are alot of nosey people out there looking to make easy money.

[Carrot Cruncher]

I hope that answers some questions for you. I just find the notion of sitting on 4 years worth of corned beef and carrots a little sad. Prepping to me should be about enrichment and empowerment not blanket stacking and stockpiling.


imo

Food stocks for me are just one of the aspects of prepping but for me it is also a quite important area, do you not have any extra food other than the weekly shop etc ? If you do have more than is generally necessary for a week or 2...how much is too much ?

Prepping (in general terms) is something I enjoy doing so although it doesn't rule my life it plays a fairly large part in it, whether that is learning new skills, buying a paraffin lamp, or checking I have screenwash in the car. Not in a paranoid way though, some people (so i have read ) won't even visit a city for fear of what might happen .

Too many preppers/survivalists spend their whole lives living in fear of what might happen instead of enjoying the (relatively) good times we have now. Despite what you see on the news every day we (in general) have easier and healthier lives than at any other point in human history,

imo

[preppingsu]

Ok, not planning to bug out if I can help it but this place has been a consideration. Although National Trust owned there would be nothing to attract people to it if tshtf. Pretty much off the beaten track and although there is signage I would be inclined to remove them. However, I would need to take supplies etc.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wl

Just a thought and I am happy to receive constructive feedback!!

[the-gnole]

Ok, not planning to bug out if I can help it but this place has been a consideration. Although National Trust owned there would be nothing to attract people to it if tshtf. Pretty much off the beaten track and although there is signage I would be inclined to remove them. However, I would need to take supplies etc.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wl

Just a thought and I am happy to receive constructive feedback!!

Can you narrow it down a bit please \Sue, The UK is a big place

[bulldogeagle]

Ok, not planning to bug out if I can help it but this place has been a consideration. Although National Trust owned there would be nothing to attract people to it if tshtf. Pretty much off the beaten track and although there is signage I would be inclined to remove them. However, I would need to take supplies etc.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wl

Just a thought and I am happy to receive constructive feedback!!

oh bloody hell, thats on my ruddy doorstep, oh nickers!

[preppingsu]

Ok, not planning to bug out if I can help it but this place has been a consideration. Although National Trust owned there would be nothing to attract people to it if tshtf. Pretty much off the beaten track and although there is signage I would be inclined to remove them. However, I would need to take supplies etc.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wl

Just a thought and I am happy to receive constructive feedback!!

Can you narrow it down a bit please \Sue, The UK is a big place

my apologies - I don't know how to post a map. The postcode is GL10 3TS, Woodchester Mansion.