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[jansman]

Bag of sugar lasts me years! Most of it goes in brews for tradesmen. I use Stevia drops on my cereal, nothing in brews or for anything else. Low sugar is yet another part of kidneystone diet, plus my weight loss diet.

Remember that Alcohol we cut down on.....
That's where my sugar will be going. 1kg with some Ribena or tinned peaches or mixed dried fruit (past BBE of course) will be next month's wine ration.
The best tinned fruit for wine making is from the dented tins with the yellow sticker
Next 40 pint beer kit is to use white sugar instead of brewing spray malt and is to be stretched to 50 pints. I'm sure I can still make a refreshing brew at reduced cost.
Note. Too much white sugar in a home made wine or beer can induce headaches beyond reason.

I am having ,obviously,to be careful of drinking,although my surgeon is quite happy with moderate levels! I tend to use wine kits. However,I like the fruit and particularly Ribena idea. I do make homemade ones so have suitable yeast,nutrient and citric acid. They take a month at correct temperature too.

Any chance you could tell me the recipes you use please?

[jennyjj01]

Bag of sugar lasts me years! Most of it goes in brews for tradesmen. I use Stevia drops on my cereal, nothing in brews or for anything else. Low sugar is yet another part of kidneystone diet, plus my weight loss diet.

Remember that Alcohol we cut down on.....
That's where my sugar will be going. 1kg with some Ribena or tinned peaches or mixed dried fruit (past BBE of course) will be next month's wine ration.

Any chance you could tell me the recipes you use please?

Here you go
viewtopic.php?p=209597#p209597

Fairly weak but refreshing wines
viewtopic.php?p=209597#p209597

[jennyjj01]

We are not meant to have to much butter as i have issues with dairy yup a failing body lol .

We can highly recommend the flora buttery from morrisons i am sure others sell it but it is £5.50 for the 2kg tub that is a bargain to me , plus if has not upset my stomach

Note
Flora buttery, typically £2.15 / 500g is in Farmfoods at 69p/250g short dated

[jansman]

Remember that Alcohol we cut down on.....
That's where my sugar will be going. 1kg with some Ribena or tinned peaches or mixed dried fruit (past BBE of course) will be next month's wine ration.

Any chance you could tell me the recipes you use please?

Here you go
viewtopic.php?p=209597#p209597

Fairly weak but refreshing wines
viewtopic.php?p=209597#p209597

Aah bangin’ ! Thanks.

[Frnc]

In case of confusion: when I wrote Flora Lighter and Butter I meant Buttery. I normally just get the Lighter, when it's on offer. Buttery is better on hot toast, doesn't make it soggy. With the Lighter it's best to let it cool down.

[steptoe]

We are not meant to have to much butter as i have issues with dairy yup a failing body lol .

We can highly recommend the flora buttery from morrisons i am sure others sell it but it is £5.50 for the 2kg tub that is a bargain to me , plus if has not upset my stomach

Note
Flora buttery, typically £2.15 / 500g is in Farmfoods at 69p/250g short dated

I thought butter never went bad , i have heard it can if not kept in a fridge but as long as in the fridge it lasts years

[jennyjj01]

We are not meant to have to much butter as i have issues with dairy yup a failing body lol .

We can highly recommend the flora buttery from morrisons i am sure others sell it but it is £5.50 for the 2kg tub that is a bargain to me , plus if has not upset my stomach

Note
Flora buttery, typically £2.15 / 500g is in Farmfoods at 69p/250g short dated

I thought butter never went bad , i have heard it can if not kept in a fridge but as long as in the fridge it lasts years

Marg doesn't go bad, but I thought spreads with real oil or butter could go rank.
My flora has BBE dates only to about a month out.

[steptoe]

Note
Flora buttery, typically £2.15 / 500g is in Farmfoods at 69p/250g short dated

I thought butter never went bad , i have heard it can if not kept in a fridge but as long as in the fridge it lasts years

Marg doesn't go bad, but I thought spreads with real oil or butter could go rank.
My flora has BBE dates only to about a month out.

We had clover that had thick mould in when we got to the bottom of the tub i had been moaning about a funny taste and when we foudn that i then got the other 3 tubs out that we brought at the same time and tipped them out and sure enough all 4 had the mould in the tub and it was a greenish/black furry , clover asked for pictures and so on and then blamed our fridge which was less that 2 years old

[jennyjj01]

Now a rather odd comparison of two specific butter substitutes.... You'll see why I call it odd.

Flora Buttery vs ALDI Beautifully Buttery

Both made with buttermilk, and superficially similar.

Flora £2.15 (-2.50) for 450g. Sneaky bu66ers cut it from 500g
Beautifully Buttery 99p
Looked like a no brainer. You get 10% more and it's less than half the price. What's the catch?

Ingredients - Flora:-
Plant Oils (Rapeseed, Palm¹, Sunflower 1%, Linseed), Water, 𝐁𝐮𝐭𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐦𝐢𝐥𝐤 10%, Salt 1.35%, Plant Based Emulsifier (Lecithin), Natural Flavourings, Vitamin A, ¹Flora buys 100% sustainable Palm Oil

Ingredients - Beautifully Buttery:-
Water, Vegetable Oils In Varying Proportions (Rapeseed, Palm And Palm Kernel Oil, Sunflower), Reconstituted 𝐁𝐮𝐭𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐦𝐢𝐥𝐤 (5%), Modified Maize Starch, Salt (1,5%), Emulsifiers: Mono- And Diglycerides Of Fatty Acids, Lecithins; Preservative: Potassium Sorbate; Acid: Lactic Acid; Colours: Annatto Bixin, Curcumin; Flavouring.

What the heck! The Aldi product's main ingredient is WATER. No doubt the latter emulsifiers were clever chemistry to make the water hide.

And it shows up in the calories per 10g
Flora: 67kCal
B. Buttery: 41kCal

There's 50% more calories in the Flora !!!
So, what's it like on toast?
Flora spread like Flora... But the B.Buttery melted VERY quickly as it was spread. I found myself serving up nearly twice as many knife-fulls per round of toast !!!

Taste test: Almost indistinguishable, but then the taste panel all have various levels of cold infection.

Is it a good substitute? The jury's still out. Being half the price is the plus, but will that be negated by using twice as much?

I'll update this post when/if we finish the tub.

Other substitute buttery products suggestions? Aldi's 'Meadow Flower' at £1.29 looks a better ingredient match to Flora.

Footnote. Flora is £2.50/450g in ASDA but 69p/250g in Farmfoods. That Farmfoods deal is a steal if your branch has stock.

[GillyBee]

Any fat can go rancid given exposure to heat/light and time. This is one way butter could go bad. On top of this most of the modern spreadable butters and marges have other ingredients such as buttermilk or water that can increase the chance of bacterial or mould growth
i managed to give myself food poisoning once before I was aware of this with a combination of a rather old very low calorie marge and a fridge that turned out to be a little over the safe temperature.