survival chances

[nickdutch]

Maybe add a touch of vegetable oil or coconut oil to taste too.

[the-gnole]

Depending on the community make up there will possibly be things to do that don't fall into "manual"

Even if it is sitting on a roof keeping a look out, all survivors will have a place somewhere in a community. Well almost everyone

like who?

Use your imagination?

It has to be remembered that depending on the situation there will be, shall we say "undesirables" on the streets/in the countryside, you might need them to do certain tasks where they are valuable and can be used efficiently and without a problem, but under other circumstances you wouldn't want them near your wife or kids.

[Alleycat]

I very much doubt that anything really big is going to affect all of us, biggest thing most likely to happen is going to be on the family levels.

Doesn't mean I won't be prepping for some unforeseen event, but will be trying to keep it firmly in the reality and probable rather than in any other place.

I have to agree with you there and the main thing I prep for is financial hardship, from either losing my job or some kind of national economic crisis, so whilst doomsday documentaries and scenarios may make for a mildly interesting diversion I wont be getting carried away - my feet are firmly planted on the ground

[the-gnole]

Careful what you say Alleycat, people might get the wrong idea about what UK preppers is really about, I read earlier today

UKP: Farmers Weekly? dont think so! more like "Straights Weekly" for people with a humour bypass!!

[Alleycat]

Careful what you say Alleycat, people might get the wrong idea about what UK preppers is really about, I read earlier today

UKP: Farmers Weekly? dont think so! more like "Straights Weekly" for people with a humour bypass!!

*hides sense of humour in the prepping cupboard*

ummmm can you stop looking so cheerful, you're giving the game away

[Carrot Cruncher]

Careful what you say Alleycat, people might get the wrong idea about what UK preppers is really about, I read earlier today

UKP: Farmers Weekly? dont think so! more like "Straights Weekly" for people with a humour bypass!!

Thats quite mild for the deluded halfwit, he's usually not nearly so polite when he's slagging off ukp

Anyway, Paul must love us really....otherwise he wouldn't keep rejoining under different names

[the-gnole]

Is the poster a member on here as well?

I know that there should be times where there needs to be a level of humour, but surely a lot of the main topic is quite a serious subject that can do without too much laughter and lack of seriousness?

[Carrot Cruncher]

Is the poster a member on here as well?

I'll give you 3 guesses (but i edited my post to make it a little clearer ). Don't get me wrong, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but if someone is going to slag off the site and it's members to people on other forums then they shouldn't whine because no one wanted to meet up with them at the wilderness gathering, instead they should ask themselves why no one wanted to meet up with them.

Back to the original topic, I think luck will play a major part in whether we survive or not. Prepping lets us increase the odds in our favour but luck will still be a major factor. No doubt plenty of un-prepped people will survive, and plenty of prepped people wont, all prepping does is give you a better chance than you would have had if you hadn't prepped

[bulldogeagle]

Is the poster a member on here as well?

I'll give you 3 guesses (but i edited my post to make it a little clearer ). Don't get me wrong, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but if someone is going to slag off the site and it's members to people on other forums then they shouldn't whine because no one wanted to meet up with them at the wilderness gathering, instead they should ask themselves why no one wanted to meet up with them.

point 1, a sense of humour is essential in a survival situation otherwise people will go into a deep depression. point 2. if you are going to be upset about what other sites say, then dont read them. point 3, people didnt turn up at the WG for the usual reasons:working, no money, too far(strange that one, cos the 1 person that did turn up-with his family- came all the way from the Newcastle area-a round trip of over 700 miles). maybe some will turn up this year, another RZ has been arranged and people from another site have agreed to participate.

[Vespa]

Talking of surviving, who was that convict that escaped prison into the countryside, and he ate his fellow escapees one by one. No one belived him when he told them until he escaped again and they found him with a hand in his pocket LOL

Is this the story Decoy?

"Alexander Pearce was transported to Sarah Island in 1822. A month later, he escaped with Thomas Bodenham, Robert Greenhill, Matthew Travis and John Mather. The party headed overland to Hobart. After 15 days without food, they decided to experiment with cannibalism. The men drew straws and it was Thomas Bodenham who drew the short one. He knelt down, was killed by a blow to the head and subsequently served up for lunch. A week later, John Mather was foraging for roots when a hungry Greenhill crept up behind him, and swung at him with an axe. At that very moment, Mather moved and the axe glanced off his head. The two men wrestled and Mather seized control. However his good fortune didn't last long. Determined to eat him, the other three ganged up and killed him. Four days later, Travis was bitten by a snake. Six days later, he too was on the menu. This left only Pearce and Greenhill. For a few days, each eyed the other suspiciously but vowed not to betray the other. Pearce thought Greenhill was lying and so killed him in the dead of night. Out of character for Pearce, he left the body untouched.

In 1823, Pearce was recaptured and confessed to his crimes. Such was the fanciful nature of his story, no one believed him and so he was sent back to Sarah Island. Nine months later, he again escaped and for provisions, he took with him Thomas Cox.

A few weeks after escaping, a crew of a passing ship saw smoke and Pearce was found. He again confessed to his crimes and even had a morsel of Cox to verify his story. Pearce was taken back to Hobart and hanged on the 19th July 1824. The judge at his trial declaring that the case was 'too inhuman to comment on'. "

It makes you wonder (or it makes me wonder) just what I'd be capable of when faced with real hunger.
Not nice to say but I think many people would resort to cannibalism if the need arose. I know that during the siege of Stalingrad the local police had to form a specialised anti cannibalism units, and there are many reports of cannibalism from history during similar events.
I’m glad that a real SHTF scenario like that is unlikely, or at least I believe so.
On that cheerful note have a nice day.