munchh wrote:I think I have said this before, but my friend is a firearms policeman, I showed him my snugpac EDC and in there is a "boyztoyz" folding locking half serated knife. Its not great but it came in a multipack I was given so thought it was better to use it as a back up. Anyway, he said as it was in a tin, in the bag, and in context with the rest of the contents it was obvious to him why I had it, but that would be different if it was just in my pocket.
I think context and situation are alot to do with it,
a grown man in his 40's dressed like a woodsman with a sodbuster in a leather slip in him pocket, wont cause any concern? I hope
I've carried a Swiss Army knife since I was a boy (I'm 46 now) and while it is legal, the couple times I've double checked with a member of the '5-oh' they've used the same example of context and used football matches as a situation not to carry it. As a season ticket holder I find this baffling, I also carry a decent pen on me, I could probably wound someone with it if I stabbed them but its fine to carry it. We have to rely on the common sense/discretion of the police as to whether we're a good guy or a bad guy and I say this as someone who is law abiding and has no problem with the Police. We seem to have become a bit silly about the whole thing, for me its simple, if someone uses a knife to stab someone then throw the book at them, if they have a (small) knife on them then no biggy, if they're kitted out like Rambo then thats a different matter, we shouldn't have to rely on what mood the police are in.
this is my new edc pocket knife, with it in the leather slip its not easy to get out at all, hopefully this will appease anyone who asks what it is
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I'm not antisocial, just anti idiot.
If you use the phase "man up" you have alot to learn.
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I always have a SAK climber and a Spyderco UKPK, almost everyday and everywhere I go. Never been stopped questioned or looked at sideways by a copper. Why? Because I look and behave like a rational ordinary bloke going about my legitimate business, and not a potential criminal!
In reality most of us could probably stroll around everyday with a loaded machine pistol in our pocket and no coppers would pay the slightest attention, as long as you act like you've every right to be there and you're doing nothing visibly wrong. But don't test my theory, please!!
Number 8 opinel with the lock ring removed, legal very cheap and superb quality carbon steel blade. I have three of them one converted to non locking and its a very rigid knife to use. Sharpens like a razor and keeps a great edge
I've bought hubby a Victorinox Hiker for Christmas (to go in his stocking ). He uses a stanley knife a lot at work and sometimes walks home with it in his pocket by accident, which probably wouldn't go down too well if he was stopped and searched! I'm hoping this will replace the stanley knife as it's UK legal and has a bunch of other useful functions including philips and flat head screwdriver, bottle opener etc. It's missing little scissors though, I wish Victorinox would make a SAK with the saw blade, both types of screwdriver and scissors, but without the cork screw!
I can relate to the Stanley knife thing, I had several, but the one I used for terminations (stripping cable carefully exposing the inner ones) I always made sure was sharp, it stayed that way longer if it was in my pocket out of the reach of others who would pick it up and use it on plasterboard or whatever, so I often forgot too, having said that I never worried about it, a genuine reason for having something I'm sure would be fair enough.
I have a strategy, it's not written in stone, nor can it be, this scenario has too many variables, everything about it depends on those variables, being specific is not possible.
Jimski wrote:Hope I'm ok to add something to this thread, rather than a specific new thread!
Just thought I'd let you all know that the Victorinox SAK - Camper is £15.50 at Tesco Direct, so delivered to your local Tesco for free. I had some vouchers to use online so paid £10.50. Might be helpful to someone.
Ment to say thanks weeks ago having seen your post...I got one seems to live in my pocket on a weekend (cary a locking multitool and svord mini peasent in my work clothes during the week)just used it to crack open a bottle of black sheep looks less menacing than the svord et all
Used it to do some electrical work last weekend too more versitile than my swiss farmer the small blade seems rather handy
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong
Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Plymtom wrote:I can relate to the Stanley knife thing, I had several, but the one I used for terminations (stripping cable carefully exposing the inner ones) I always made sure was sharp, it stayed that way longer if it was in my pocket out of the reach of others who would pick it up and use it on plasterboard or whatever, so I often forgot too, having said that I never worried about it, a genuine reason for having something I'm sure would be fair enough.
I wasn't a professional sparky but I used to use my Swiss army knife to cut back lecky cables on a regular basis, I used to keep the wee blade just for this because I was doing a lot of it at times. I'm not an expert on knives but I've been happy enough with the Swiss jobbies, like anything you get good with practice.
from lighting cables to armoured ones as thick as your arm, you really need something locking that wont fold up on you, and short, and sharp, the Stanley is the tool for the job, even then some plonkers cut themselves for a pastime
I have a strategy, it's not written in stone, nor can it be, this scenario has too many variables, everything about it depends on those variables, being specific is not possible.
Plymtom wrote:from lighting cables to armoured ones as thick as your arm, you really need something locking that wont fold up on you, and short, and sharp, the Stanley is the tool for the job, even then some plonkers cut themselves for a pastime
Fair one mate, I was on about wee fairy cables as opposed to armoured bad boys. I ended up doing some electrical stuff in the Navy when they changed around jobs, like I say, I never saw myself as a professional, despite the Navy 'magic wanding' us. I managed to pick up some electrical skills but I've got big holes in my knowledge and would never offer my services but then I'm a lazy so and so too.
they've used the same example of context and used football matches as a situation not to carry it. As a season ticket holder I find this baffling, I also carry a decent pen on me, I could probably wound someone with it if I stabbed them but its fine to carry it. We have to rely on the common sense/discretion of the police as to whether we're a good guy or a bad guy and I say this as someone who is law abiding and has no problem with the Police. We seem to have become a bit silly about the whole thing, for me its simple, if someone uses a knife to stab someone then throw the book at them, if they have a (small) knife on them then no biggy, if they're kitted out like Rambo then thats a different matter, we shouldn't have to rely on what mood the police are in.
