Pen knife ??

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Yorkshire Andy
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Plymtom wrote:from lighting cables to armoured ones as thick as your arm, you really need something locking that wont fold up on you, and short, and sharp, the Stanley is the tool for the job, even then some plonkers cut themselves for a pastime :lol:

As much as most sparkies hate them i really like my fixed electricans Knife

http://www.screwfix.com/p/nws-cable-kni ... 000v/28500

i have that one used a fair bit and so far not needed to sharpen it.......


I have one of these knocking about but don't really get on with it

http://www.screwfix.com/p/c-k-electricians-knife/53021


Know some industrial sites will kick you off if you are found to have a stanley knife in your tool box.. due to elf and safety
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pitchshifter wrote:I've bought hubby a Victorinox Hiker for Christmas (to go in his stocking :D ). He uses a stanley knife a lot at work and sometimes walks home with it in his pocket by accident, which probably wouldn't go down too well if he was stopped and searched! I'm hoping this will replace the stanley knife as it's UK legal and has a bunch of other useful functions including philips and flat head screwdriver, bottle opener etc. It's missing little scissors though, I wish Victorinox would make a SAK with the saw blade, both types of screwdriver and scissors, but without the cork screw!

Take yourself over to the British Blades website , theres a guy on there who will convert SAKs to any spec you wish :D
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Yorkshire Andy wrote:
Plymtom wrote:from lighting cables to armoured ones as thick as your arm, you really need something locking that wont fold up on you, and short, and sharp, the Stanley is the tool for the job, even then some plonkers cut themselves for a pastime :lol:

As much as most sparkies hate them i really like my fixed electricans Knife

http://www.screwfix.com/p/nws-cable-kni ... 000v/28500

i have that one used a fair bit and so far not needed to sharpen it.......


I have one of these knocking about but don't really get on with it

http://www.screwfix.com/p/c-k-electricians-knife/53021


Know some industrial sites will kick you off if you are found to have a stanley knife in your tool box.. due to elf and safety
Bought my son in law one. He is a quarry maintenance fitter. Due to elf n safety they are not allowed stanley knives. WTF !
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its due to the amount of work place injuries they cause...... from slipping and taking big chunks out of ones flesh.. or failing to retract it and slipping it into your pocket. people overworking a stanley knife blade and them snapping and taking ones eye out... or the blade coming out the cheaper knifes.... or the dopey staff member who takes a chunk out whilst changing the blade or dump the old one in a rubbish bag to get the cleaner...

just google image stanley knife injuries :shock:
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Yorkshire Andy wrote:its due to the amount of work place injuries they cause...... from slipping and taking big chunks out of ones flesh.. or failing to retract it and slipping it into your pocket. people overworking a stanley knife blade and them snapping and taking ones eye out... or the blade coming out the cheaper knifes.... or the dopey staff member who takes a chunk out whilst changing the blade or dump the old one in a rubbish bag to get the cleaner...

just google image stanley knife injuries :shock:

Before common sense went on permanent vacation injury was quite common I'll give them that,I was both lucky and careful perhaps being a guitarist aswell and not wanting cuts made me that way, I had a big cable knife I used for armored ones sometimes, that had a belt holster, hollow ground type thing and yes it was sharp, for flexes and domestic cables, I'd still feel safer with a Stanley type thing :roll: Times have changed, but some people are just not meant to be around sharp things, some people ( and I knew a few) were just so accident prone that the health and safety people would have probably employed them just for study ;)
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Was talking to a old school plasterer the other night ... ever since i was a kid (hes a family friend) he would turn up with his trusty plastic milk bottle crates and a plank and do ceilings and walls

they he goes onto a proper site when he is working for "the man" he says you cant use them as they are not safe you must use this aluminium platform which is more clumbersome you cant move it easily (milk crates slide if you kick them) so you spend more time bent over lifting the thing to move about the room .,

and as he found the ally deck and plaster splatter make them leathally slidy but the old milk crates let stuff fall through the plastic so they are effectively none slip


and they call it progress :roll:



on the knife subject we get these at work..

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Silverline-Tool ... uctDetails


they are utter garbage
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Yorkshire Andy wrote:Was talking to a old school plasterer the other night ... ever since i was a kid (hes a family friend) he would turn up with his trusty plastic milk bottle crates and a plank and do ceilings and walls

they he goes onto a proper site when he is working for "the man" he says you cant use them as they are not safe you must use this aluminium platform which is more clumbersome you cant move it easily (milk crates slide if you kick them) so you spend more time bent over lifting the thing to move about the room .,

and as he found the ally deck and plaster splatter make them leathally slidy but the old milk crates let stuff fall through the plastic so they are effectively none slip


and they call it progress :roll:



on the knife subject we get these at work..

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Silverline-Tool ... uctDetails


they are utter garbage
:lol: :lol: :lol: I rest my case, teaching/learning not to be a plonker from an early age is the best way, alright some never get there, my wife and corned beef tins would be a good example ;)
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Yorkshire Andy wrote:Was talking to a old school plasterer the other night ... ever since i was a kid (hes a family friend) he would turn up with his trusty plastic milk bottle crates and a plank and do ceilings and walls

they he goes onto a proper site when he is working for "the man" he says you cant use them as they are not safe you must use this aluminium platform which is more clumbersome you cant move it easily (milk crates slide if you kick them) so you spend more time bent over lifting the thing to move about the room .,

and as he found the ally deck and plaster splatter make them leathally slidy but the old milk crates let stuff fall through the plastic so they are effectively none slip


and they call it progress :roll:
To be fair I was on a job where a plasterer fell off a milk crate and broke both wrists which resulted with all of them being confiscated and removed from site. Slightly ironic in that the customer was a close relative of the inventor of the plastic milk crate :shock:
However , in some respects the reaction was over the top and we started using step ladders with handrails and toe boards , this sort of thing http://www.accesscaffinternational.com/ ... ladder.php , but as you have pointed out cumbersome , inflexible , heavy and frankly just a pain to use.
Nowadays I don't work on sites but do know a plasterer that I use and recommend , he solves the problem by being about 6'6" :D
Sorry gone a bit off topic there. Slightly back I tend to carry a SAK ,a Spartan , and also like the Stanley knife with the fixed blade for general purpose use. I also carry a large kitchen knife in my gardening tools just for the versatility.