What lessons from the riots so far ?

[itsybitsy]

Oh, I am aware of the occupations of some of the looters,and their social status.However as you said yourself,initially the trouble was caused by black gang(s).Then the group dynamic took over.

Some years ago my Uncle set up a gym and martial arts 'Dojo' in Derby.He had a lot of black/Afro carribbean customers.They were there,quite openly,training for the 'Revolution'.

I see that Cameron has consulted a police expert from Los Angeles who stamped down on black gang culture.If the Gvt.are doing that tell me there's no problem.

And another thing. The police expert from Los Angeles stamped down on gang culture, not specifically BLACK gang culture!

[scoobie]

I don't want to have to lock this thread, so tread carefully please.

Scoobie.

[itsybitsy]

Racism is abhorrent.

[Carrot Cruncher]

Sorry Boss

[jansman]

Racism is abhorrent.

It is!What I am talking about is CULTURE.
Let me make it clear.I live in an area that is dominated by a Hindu population.In fact my firmest friend, my neighbour, is Hindu.

I didn't notice Asians rioting,were they not defending their businesses and homes,and those Sikh lads defending their temple ?They work,they revere the family.It's their CULTURE.

However, the rioters we spoke of have a CULTURE of fathering many children by many mothers(and expecting the State to support them). Unfortunately this culture is feeding into the White "Chav" class through street culture and Rap artists like 50 Cent and Eminen (White).When you have tracks titled "Smack my Bitch Up"you can start to understand the cultural attitude towards women.
I was brought up on a rough council estate and my Mum used to reckon our side of the street went to work to keep the other side on the dole.

Britain is now in that situation of the workers keeping the sub-culture(s)idle.This culture was the one ( initially ) who considered the loot their entitlement.
Black or White this sub culture represents a threat to our entire society,as we cannot afford anyone that will not pull their weight.
Sorry if I am not PC,like Triple Sod says you cannot sugar coat the facts.In fact I would say PC another problem in this country.It deters people from having the backbone tospeak the truth.

Sorry if I have rattled cages,but I still believe I live in a country that has the right to free speech. I also believe that freedom means I have to be responsible for my wellbeing, my family and my taxes.

[Carrot Cruncher]

Sorry if I am not PC,like Triple Sod says you cannot sugar coat the facts.In fact I would say PC another problem in this country.It deters people from having the backbone tospeak the truth

Thats a bit of a lame response to be honest. It's nothing to do with being PC, everything to do with facts.

You are accusing people of being too PC because they point out the fact (and give examples) to show you are talking rubbish.

You brought up the ethnicity of the looters, were the looters of any particular ethnic group ? No

And are you also saying no asians were looting ?...you really must have a dodgy tv display

I started this thread to learn lessons from the riots....I guess one lesson I've learned is that no matter what the facts of the situation are some people dont want to hear them

Anyway, as this thread has gone way off topic and no doubt causing the mods grief (Sorry scoobs and Lil ) I will leave you to it as it seems I'm wasting my time trying to introduce facts into the fantasy you have created

[diamond lil]

Well we could argue until we all turn into blue Martians and still end up arguing so lets leave it eh.
Let's put all our energies into more prepping to safeguard our own, as the way things are going we're all gonny need it !

[itsybitsy]

When you have tracks titled "Smack my Bitch Up"you can start to understand the cultural attitude towards women.

Smack my Bitch up, by The Prodigy. Members: Keith Flint, and founder Liam Howlett. Both middle-class white boys from Essex. Liam Howlett is a classically trained pianist...I rest my case. Innit.

[diamond lil]

Wee groupie !

[itsybitsy]

Wee groupie !

Shhhhhhhhhhht!