future education

[lonewolf]

only if you have room!!

[cpslashm]

I repeat myself, I know, but a lot happened in the Dark ages. Great discoveries were made, as were technological leaps.

They are called the Dark Ages because we don't know what happened. Artisans and orators died of plague, libraries were burned along with history books in long wars.

I fear we are living in the Second Dark Ages because much of the knowledge we have will be lost.

It is up to us to preserve what we can.

Or not.

[lonewolf]

given the state of the SHTF event that might not be possible, much of what we have now will be destroyed in the general mayhem that will follow. a new dark age will probably follow. knowledge and skills (not books) and not possesions will be they key to survival .

[grenfell]

As forge has said education will be during the slack times , and also it enables the old of any society to contribute . Those who are old frail and unable to spend long hours in the fields can still use their time to teach the young.
A paw world may very well be radically different to what we have now but would that be radically different to what our ancestors have known? Even if we were thrust back to the Stone Age there would still be time not spent hunting or farming , time that can be spent on education. Archeologists find Stone Age jewerly and cave paintings all testament to show that even then not everything was pure survival.
I also have seen the aborigines of Australia . They arrived as a Stone Age people some 24,000 years ago, never developed any of their 600 odd languages and dialects into a written language and they were still a Stone Age people when they were re discovered some few hundred years ago.

[cpslashm]

a new dark age will probably follow.

I think you miss my point. If we only preserve the knowledge and skills for immediate survival, the last few hundred years are already part of the Dark Ages.

No Newton, Kepler, Kelvin etc. to provide the understanding for the scientific method of empirical (measurable) proof. Instead we will be back to the old ways of "Your way of doing it is better than my way because you say it is." When trying to improve things, ignorance can be lethal. So we are stuck with doing something the way it has always been done because it's safer than trying to improve it, although we don't know why.

Or we burn the tax law books and preserve a few science/engineering ones.

[theoldcowguru]

I suggested books as they are a way to retain the knowledge we have and to use for future reference. Of course we need knoeledge and skills, but I doubt everyone in your group will be able to retain knowledge from all areas of life. Books are there for the things we have yet to know or understand fully. I doubt that, no matter how much someone here has researched or practises it, knows everything about, for example, farming. That's why this community prep, and books are there for when we further expand upon our knowledge and research when we don't have the ability to use the internet. In essence, we will still be prepping after any event because we are trying to secure a more consistent future. Of course books may have a lot of unnecessary material and is usually nowhere near as good as hands on experience, but there can be also a lot of useful information.

Anyway here's a new point to add to this topic. If you will be continuing education for people your junior, what will be your priority subjects. I would prefer if people didn't only list the obvious things essential to surviving as this is meant to expand upon that. It doesn't have to be in order and can be a thing taught on all levels i.e. secondary school and above. It can also be specialised topics and skills. Books will have to be used, if your group doesn't know or understand fully the subject themselves.

[jansman]

given the state of the SHTF event that might not be possible, much of what we have now will be destroyed in the general mayhem that will follow. a new dark age will probably follow. knowledge and skills (not books) and not possesions will be they key to survival .

You really want the world to end , don't you ? For anyone to deny reading and writing must want us to return to the Stone Age.

[FEISTY]

Haven't read the book ForgeCorvus, but interesting idea. I have relatives whose name means "scribe", so maybe they were the ones who could read and write in days of old . I would be happy to be a scribe, but I'd be nagging the technical guys to get the printers up and running again .

[FEISTY]

@ cpslashm

"Or we burn the tax law books." I'm for that , but suspect tax laws would be the first to resurface .

[Quercus-robur]

given the state of the SHTF event that might not be possible, much of what we have now will be destroyed in the general mayhem that will follow. a new dark age will probably follow. knowledge and skills (not books) and not possesions will be they key to survival .

You speak as if you know how TEOTWAWKI will happen.

And a book is not merely a possession, it IS knowledge and skills. We live in a world of convenience where we know a lot yet at the same time know very little. Take an averagely educated guy from today and send him back to the middle ages and he will be able to tell them that we have built machines to fly us across oceans, reach their depths, put a man on the moon, send pictures and sound round the world to a box for personal viewing. We have discovered electricity and use it (with other scientific discoveries) to refrigerate food, light and heat our homes. We have cured many diseases and corrected vision and hearing. There is so much that that guy could describe to medieval folk. Now say these folk think that all these innovations sound pretty nifty and say to average Joe, "Show us, Teach us". Without the knowledge written down in books could he do that? Could you?

It is easy to describe the world today. Try explaining it . . .

Qr