Vehicle prep

[berkswolf]

I was looking at a honda CRV as a good prep/bug out vehicle, what are anybodies thoughts on it?

[mallie99]

My mum has one, useless in the snow. Suspect it would be just as bad on mud.

Sorry

[Yorkshire Andy]

My mum has one, useless in the snow. Suspect it would be just as bad on mud.

Sorry

What tyres it running Mallie? My punto out does 4x4's in the snow since its running winter "snow" tyres......

bit like getting a marathon runner to do a run in flip flops..

Problem is most people buying a 4x4 will never have it off the black stuff and want one that quiet, and to go round corners smoothly as such manufacturers usually stick road tyres on it

stick a decent set of tyres on for the conditions its used in and it will transform it....

exhibit a

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfuE00qdhLA

and B

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlYEMH10Z4s

I overtook a bmw x5 a few years back which was coming down a steep 1:4 ish hill in north yorkshire with all the 4 wheels trying to get up... the punto romped to the top

this should give you some idea as to the conditions

[unsure]

I was looking at a honda CRV as a good prep/bug out vehicle, what are anybodies thoughts on it?

beware the rear diff on these , they tend to make a noise just before they fall to bits , quite common fault .

not my choice of vehicle but each to there own . if you want some thing like that , thats comfy on road and good off road . take a look at the 3,.1 diesel trooper . a bit bigger granted , but a whole lot better .

[snelo85]

I do believe that there are bigger economic problems ahead , indeed I tend to believe we have already started the slide a sort of slow motion car crash but I don't see it causing the need to bug out on any sort of mass scale. A good parallel would probably be mid west states of America in the 30's. People did up sticks and leave as crops failed and money ran out but it was on a more individual basis as their "own SHTF"
In all honesty if economic meltdown is one's main fear then preps to allow staying put and riding it out would make more sense , filling any spare ground with food crops and that sort of thing.[/quote]


I do see the sense in what you are saying
and agree
the problem i have here is
if TSHTF right now
i live in a ground floor flat within a mile from the city centre of which over 132,000 people live then as we move out to the city as a whole its more like 370,000
Not to mention i have 4 major shops within a stones throw from my door (literally)
i dont know about you but if money becomes potentially worthless, I dont like my odds of surviving here and protecting my family
I choose to run and hide in the country

I know films and tv shows build up and over dramatise these type of events
BUT lets face it if we have a complete financial collapse and people find their money is useless in the shops what is the next step looting shops that will take maybe a day.. (shops usually have 2 days of normal shopping in store)
then its to homes and people

Now i ask the real questiion
Do you have children and or partner?
what would you do to feed your starving children or partner?
I know what i will do

so based on that thinking out of over 350,000 people how many will do the same as me (just to feed themselves) i bet its a high percentage

If this sounds aggressive my appologise it isnt intended that way
and am taking all critisism on board
Its just where we currently live its not secure not defendable i cant grow or do anything here
BUT
i am looking at how i an get out into the sticks so i can Knuckle under

[snelo85]

Have you even considered the possibility of staying at home? Where are you going to go?

How likely is worldwide financial collapse and what would be the impact to you and your family? Like you said, I think you have a lot of thinking to do.


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the Likely hood of complete financial collapse is very likely
the banks around the world are printing money to try and get on top of the MASSIVE DEBT around the world
this is called "funny money" and basically the more they print the lower the value of it and therefore inflation goes up to counter it

a few months ago america nearly had to close their government due to having no money
if this actually happens it would De-stabilise the entire worlds economy
and history show this has happened to other civilisations
so from my point of view is the most realistic end of life as we know it situation

(my suggestion is for you to look into this yourself i have found enough to think this is a real possiblity in the next 5-10 years)

so how it effects me is
the value of all money everywhere is constantly decreasing in value (fact)

so imagine you wake up tomorrow and inflation or interest rates have skyrocketed
and you go to buy a loaf of bread at £300 but you wage is still the same
do you continue to work?
will everyone else?

so now people are hungry and resort to raiding the shops
(your local Tesco or Asda has a 2 day suply of stock for normal shopping patterns) again fact
so they will all be empty within a day[youtube][/youtube]
and once all this has been consumed what come next?
Usually people will do anything to get food (i know i would physically assault some to feed my baby daughter) (sorry its the truth)
now i live in a very densly populated low demigraphic part of our city
my only realistic option to protect my family is to get out of the city

There have been 3 economic revolution Agricultural, Industrial and transport. All resulted in disinflation when ever there was a recession (the real definition of a depression) we are now in the computer revolution inflation only reached 5% despite the dramatic increase the in the money supply (the reason we did not have disinflation). The UK's inflation rate, as measured by the Consumer Prices Index, fell to 2% in December, down from 2.1% the month before. CPI is basically RPI - X where X = housing costs. The chance of a dramatic increase in inflation is close to nil.

There are many things to prepare for that is not one of them

There is no way you can say this cant happen
the things most nations are doing to get out of debt are unprecidented we are in unchartered territory and are in a downward spiral set in motion around 70years ago
and us not keeping in order our own individual finances and not watching the Banks or the government and numerous other things

something will come its just when

[DownhillFast]

so i am planning at the minute as i have low funds (VERY LOW)

what sort of vehicles have you considered or have you got for BUGGING OUT
also what modifications are you doing/done to make it as practical as possible

what are your thoughts?

I bought an old Mercedes Vito panel van. Loads of parts, loads for sale, tough and well built and they blend in very easily. Lots of room up front with bench seat, plenty of room for another row of seats behind the fronts if needs be and room for a double mattress behind the front seats if the second row is not required. Being a panel van I have the flexibility of earning money from it right now in my trade, can sling the camping stuff in there for weekends away and chuck the essentials in it and bug out too if needs be.

Good luck from Area 4

[preppingsu]

so i am planning at the minute as i have low funds (VERY LOW)

what sort of vehicles have you considered or have you got for BUGGING OUT
also what modifications are you doing/done to make it as practical as possible

what are your thoughts?

I bought an old Mercedes Vito panel van. Loads of parts, loads for sale, tough and well built and they blend in very easily. Lots of room up front with bench seat, plenty of room for another row of seats behind the fronts if needs be and room for a double mattress behind the front seats if the second row is not required. Being a panel van I have the flexibility of earning money from it right now in my trade, can sling the camping stuff in there for weekends away and chuck the essentials in it and bug out too if needs be.

Good luck from Area 4

Hello Downhillfast,
Pease post a decent introduction in the new members section.
Thanks

[poppypiesdad]

so i am planning at the minute as i have low funds (VERY LOW)

what sort of vehicles have you considered or have you got for BUGGING OUT
also what modifications are you doing/done to make it as practical as possible

what are your thoughts?

I bought an old Mercedes Vito panel van. Loads of parts, loads for sale, tough and well built and they blend in very easily. Lots of room up front with bench seat, plenty of room for another row of seats behind the fronts if needs be and room for a double mattress behind the front seats if the second row is not required. Being a panel van I have the flexibility of earning money from it right now in my trade, can sling the camping stuff in there for weekends away and chuck the essentials in it and bug out too if needs be.

Good luck from Area 4

The pre '52 Vito's are front wheel drive the latest ones are rear wheel , I had a dueliner with 5 seats and was good but started to rot and be too unreliable for my work so it had to go , good luck with it , has it had the injector seals done , or it will suffer the "black death "
J

[Devonian]

Be very very careful with the Vito's especially in this weather!

A plumber friend of mine had a Vito and he hydraulic'd the engine as apparently the air intake is located beneath the engine and he drove through about 12 inches of water and that was enough to put the air intake under water which result in water being sucked into the engine and completely blowing it with the vehicle being written off!

Not sure what year it was, or whether it affects all vito's but make sure you know where the air intake is before driving through any water.

Some Peugot's also have this problem.