Well you could get yourself a nice revolver, a nice .223 rifle and a few pump action semi auto shotguns if you really need to, all legal and above board, and at a reasonable price, just need to get yourself a section one FAC and a reason to own them, nice shooting club would be that reason.Teresa wrote:Before I moved here I was part of a survivalist group. Weaponry is something I didn't worry about back home I was set. A 223 Rifle and a 45 sidearm with more ammo than I knew what to do with. Here however I have to start from scratch. I really appreciate this thread I got a lot of useful information from it. I am looking at bows even though I would prefer firearms. I'll take what I can get.
To Bow or to Crossbow.... that is the question
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I didn't know 223 were legal here. What would it be a single shot? I had an AR15, with 30 round clips.
To Bow or to Crossbow.... that is the question
.223 would be a straight pull (like a bolt action but without a locking bolt)
Not cheap though...for a .223 straight pull AR type rifle, you'd be looking at over £1000 and .223 ammo is pricey here too.
The only semi auto you can have here is .22 rimfire.
Not cheap though...for a .223 straight pull AR type rifle, you'd be looking at over £1000 and .223 ammo is pricey here too.
The only semi auto you can have here is .22 rimfire.
By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail - Benjamin Franklin
To Bow or to Crossbow.... that is the question
The only revolvers you can have are either a long barrel revolver, or a muzzle loader. Unless you can get a restricted one for 'humane dispatch' for hunting purposes.the-gnole wrote:Well you could get yourself a nice revolver, a nice .223 rifle and a few pump action semi auto shotguns if you really need to, all legal and above board, and at a reasonable price, just need to get yourself a section one FAC and a reason to own them, nice shooting club would be that reason.Teresa wrote:Before I moved here I was part of a survivalist group. Weaponry is something I didn't worry about back home I was set. A 223 Rifle and a 45 sidearm with more ammo than I knew what to do with. Here however I have to start from scratch. I really appreciate this thread I got a lot of useful information from it. I am looking at bows even though I would prefer firearms. I'll take what I can get.
By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail - Benjamin Franklin
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Black powder navy sea colt is a six shot revolver, takes a wee while to reload though.
A friend has these rifles in his collection
10/22
.303 Lee Enfield
.223 Steyr scout
.357 magnum Marlin
Another friend picked this one up for £50
Parker hale .243
A friend has these rifles in his collection
10/22
.303 Lee Enfield
.223 Steyr scout
.357 magnum Marlin
Another friend picked this one up for £50
Parker hale .243
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You can borrow a shotgun without a shotty certificate under the 72 hour rule. So if you know someone close by that owns some. You could borrow one if it looks like TSHTF is coming.
I have been going through my BOB's and listing everything, what uses it has and how I can improve each set of kit.
Here is a few uses I have listed for the small £10 crossbow pistol I posted about. Apart from the obvious use of putting a high speed bolt in somethings backside. there are a few other very useful reasons to have on. I think it should be in everyones general BOB.
Uses:
For hunting small game (rabbits, birds, fish)
Setting an animal trap with tripline to trigger (a bit dangerous!!!, but effective)
Defense from large animals (Dogs, Boar, etc)
Self defence from attackers and as a deterant
running lines/para-cord up trees for:
making camp,
Hanging up animal proof food bags (like in bear country)
running up a rope for climbing.
running lines/para-cord over rivers, raveens for crossing
Setting fishing line far into lakes/rivers/sea
Setting aerial wires up trees etc
Launching glowsticks
It could save your life in so many ways.
I have been going through my BOB's and listing everything, what uses it has and how I can improve each set of kit.
Here is a few uses I have listed for the small £10 crossbow pistol I posted about. Apart from the obvious use of putting a high speed bolt in somethings backside. there are a few other very useful reasons to have on. I think it should be in everyones general BOB.
Uses:
For hunting small game (rabbits, birds, fish)
Setting an animal trap with tripline to trigger (a bit dangerous!!!, but effective)
Defense from large animals (Dogs, Boar, etc)
Self defence from attackers and as a deterant
running lines/para-cord up trees for:
making camp,
Hanging up animal proof food bags (like in bear country)
running up a rope for climbing.
running lines/para-cord over rivers, raveens for crossing
Setting fishing line far into lakes/rivers/sea
Setting aerial wires up trees etc
Launching glowsticks
It could save your life in so many ways.
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if we look at the history of the said items ie crossbow and recurve/ longbow.
at the battle of crecy the hired!!! genoese crossbowmen had to beat a hasty retreat after trying to get closer to the english archers... and some were actually killed by the french who had hired them acusing them of cowardice!!! in my view history proved that crossbows were a much less effective tool than bows per se!! rate of fire!!! range!! and accuracy there is an old saying (one, on the target, one in the air, and one on the string. and as for spare parts and maintainance.. the term keep it under your hat. comes from the place where longbowmen stored spare strings!!! thgrease from their hair actually helping to waterproof the strings!!! but as many have said having both items would probably be the best way to go!!!
at the battle of crecy the hired!!! genoese crossbowmen had to beat a hasty retreat after trying to get closer to the english archers... and some were actually killed by the french who had hired them acusing them of cowardice!!! in my view history proved that crossbows were a much less effective tool than bows per se!! rate of fire!!! range!! and accuracy there is an old saying (one, on the target, one in the air, and one on the string. and as for spare parts and maintainance.. the term keep it under your hat. comes from the place where longbowmen stored spare strings!!! thgrease from their hair actually helping to waterproof the strings!!! but as many have said having both items would probably be the best way to go!!!
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You shouldn't need to make any new ammo as you just walk up to the corpse and pull the bolt from his forehead, wipe it on his shirt (unless you are planning on stripping him and stealing his stuff) and put it back in you crossbow ready for the next idiot who tries to steal your stash.coulesy wrote:
Good thing about bows and Xbows is that unlike a piece of military weaponary that WILL run out of ammunition at some point, you can usually make replacement ammunition with a tree and a knife.
Simples.