Bugging Out ?

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nickdutch
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Re: Bugging Out ?

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It looks beautiful and fit for purpose :)
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tommylongstocking

Re: Bugging Out ?

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the-gnole wrote:Then of course there might be a problem if the climate change effects on sea levels kicks in,

Anything low level near the coast if/when that happens is likely/possibly going to be at sea.

I know a little place where I could happily set up a community, has plenty of accomodation, water supplies, wild-life for food, loads of space for farming both arable and livestock, lots of farms around for machinery, own fuel storage areas, wood for firewood, off the beaten track and prying eyes, good all round security fencing.
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LMAO :lol:
Carrot Cruncher

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Best hope the chaps using the wood at the moment aren't around when you turn up.....don't think it would end well :D
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Carrot Cruncher wrote:Best hope the chaps using the wood at the moment aren't around when you turn up.....don't think it would end well :D

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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silverfox

Re: Bugging Out ?

Post by silverfox »

Bugging In :!:

The old saying " There's safety in numbers " If you have a well preppared group and a trusted group with structure then your chances of survival will be greatly increased. As mentioned before, there will be more mouths to feed but you will be able to find more resources and share knowledge as a community. A single person or small group will at some point need to hook up with others if not out of necessity then loneliness. Not to say that running to the hills is a bad idea as its only us types that would stand half a chance of surviving. Even if your location is near a road although it may be visible, its not all bad as it also gives you a fast escape route.

City folk will miss their creature comforts too much and its goodbye to the " Whats the point in prepping types " :o

So for me due to my location its staying put and making the most of it. There is pleanty of land with growing space and wood, water, fuel/oil , shipping containers, machines, underground storage, live stock, farms to keep me going along with a large defendable building...and pleanty of space for guest preppers :D

Any preppers in my area are welcome to come check out the location, you may even want to add it to your possible B O Ls , Remember Safety In Numbers ...............if interested contact me and i will give you a postcode to look at, but please remain discrete 8-)
TeeDee

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silverfox wrote: Any preppers in my area are welcome to come check out the location, you may even want to add it to your possible B O Ls , Remember Safety In Numbers ...............if interested contact me and i will give you a postcode to look at, but please remain discrete 8-)
Before you get a cascade of e-mails , may be useful to just narrow it down to a geographic rough area.

IMO.
TeeDee

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Anyone else going to stick up a possible BOL ?? It doesn't have to be your intended BOL.

Goto Google map , find your location , click on the LINK icon ( a little chain symbol ) to the left of the map ( by the print button ) , tick 'short URL' and then just copy and paste the abbreviated link.

as an example.

http://g.co/maps/ekw5y
Carrot Cruncher

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Post by Carrot Cruncher »

I was wondering how you put that link up...... I tried last night and gave up :D

right, here you go, Burgh Island http://g.co/maps/5xtkg
silverfox

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TeeDee wrote:
silverfox wrote: Any preppers in my area are welcome to come check out the location, you may even want to add it to your possible B O Ls , Remember Safety In Numbers ...............if interested contact me and i will give you a postcode to look at, but please remain discrete 8-)
Before you get a cascade of e-mails , may be useful to just narrow it down to a geographic rough area.

IMO.
My rough location is on our site location map set up by axel under "groups"................this is great and shows where we all are give or take a bit........Shame more of us dont use it :roll:

Im in Sussex near Uckfield :)

Ps Thanks TeeDee for the Map link info.
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TeeDee

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Carrot Cruncher wrote:I was wondering how you put that link up...... I tried last night and gave up :D

right, here you go, Burgh Island http://g.co/maps/5xtkg
Ah Burgh Island , I was thinking about staying in the Hotel as a treat for me and the other until I saw the room prices :shock: ...

Ok , Tidal Island only 250 m from the mainland linked by a causeway. So as its linked by a causeway and they use a sea tractor to transfer passengers at high tide any good or wombled kit would also have to be transported at low tide to the island , that sort of good and bad i guess, it limits direct ability to walk to the island but means you need to transport stuff by special equipment ( albeit a modified tractor ) and at special times of the day and year during High Tide.

Low tide it seems to be a different matter and just a stretch of beach with easy access across , which sort of makes it an impotent island in my eye.

Random Vid for general idea.



I Guess I could further speculate that 250 m from the mainland beach means that you could snipe with a suitable calibre at anyone on the beach. But that obviously works the other way around and so if you think armed confrontation and rampant hordes are likely mean laying siege would be very easy on the attackers.


Overall , I think it could be made better but would need a massive amount of infrastructure pulled acrossto build polytunnels , wind generators , solar panels. No natural wood or fuel source on the island I could see and I'd like to know what they did for drinking water.

So to me , it exposed to the elements , lack of resources , and the ease of relative access means it a no in my book.


Most of the smaller UK island I think depend on regular replen via the mainland and so do not make good proposals without serious remodding and build up of specific infrastructure . I think Island wise one needs to be looking far larger and to achieve that one needs to be part of a larger group.

The smaller islands do offer isolation , so if a vigourous epidemic was burning through the UK you could use it to quarantine yourself quite well there but you'd be dependent upon whatever food reserves that were already in place or that you transferred across.

To be long term I don't think a self sufficient existence could be eked out of a small island , you could certainly use waht space was available to off set going through drystocks but to me its limiting.

YMMV. :D