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itslee
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Post by itslee »

After spending the morning looking through topics on here I've come across people choosing to freeze things like dried foods IE rice, pasta, etc.. Is this down to preference? Or does everyone do it to help in storing food longer?

Also them gas canister stoves can they or can't they be used indoors? Seen mix reviews on people using them indoors by windows/back doors and some using them in a well vented room?

I planned to use mine outside the backdoor but would like the choice of indoors as well on a cold day.

Just something id like to have confirmed or not. Sorry if already asked.
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Hi i think the idea of freezing dried food is to kill weavel eggs etc. As for a gas stove in doors it should be fine so long as you have air flow, a carbon m alarm would be a good idea.
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Do you have a gas stove in the kitchen (Mains gas)? Has it killed you yet?

It seems from posts on all sorts of forums that the PC/risk assessment world we live in blows many things out of proportion and this includes cooking indoors with a camp stove or lanterns :(

Use a bit of common sense, open a window a tad, get an alarm if you feel its needed and just get on with it. I love cooking and if I'm short of burners for a menu I'll fire up a couple of Primus stoves in the kitchen and use them...I'm still here.
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I've only seen 2 gas canister stoves for sale that say they can be used indoors (in a well ventilated area)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bright-Spark-1- ... ove+indoor

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bright-Spark-1- ... Q8W76K1VPV

Don't have either of these myself yet although the stainless steel one is on my wishlist.
Looking at the images they look identical to the Marksman stove (apart from saying flame failure device on them) I have but cost 3 times as much.

I have used my Marksman in the kitchen with the window open & the extractor fan going.
Depends on how cold it is really, I'd use it outside if it wasn't really cold but you just have to remember to be sensible about it.

People freeze food to make sure bugs are dead before putting it into longer term storage.
Not something I've got as far as doing yet, but a good idea.
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Thanks for bringing this storage question up. I hadn't heard of freezing uncooked rice etc.
For added protection against bugs, dust or other contaminants, uncooked rice may also be stored in the fridge or freezer; place rice in a sealed airtight container or place original package in a resealable heavy-duty freezer bag.
Here's a link for further reading http://www.stilltasty.com/articles/view/71

As far as I know, butane is not good for cooking or heating indoors because of carbon monoxide build up. I've just bought a Mr Heater Little Buddy propane heater from a friend. It's marketed as an indoor heater. Propane also gives off carbon monoxide, although this heater comes with a safety cut off feature. I won't be using it without a separate carbon monoxide detector or in unventilated room though.

I do still have a Black Cat butane heater which I bought to heat me garage when I used to use it as a workspace. I'd only use that indoors in a well ventilated room.
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rik_uk3 wrote:Do you have a gas stove in the kitchen (Mains gas)? Has it killed you yet?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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MissPrep wrote:I've only seen 2 gas canister stoves for sale that say they can be used indoors (in a well ventilated area)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bright-Spark-1- ... ove+indoor

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bright-Spark-1- ... Q8W76K1VPV
They look a little pricey compared to the same thing from here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Yellowstone-Por ... B001W78P0W
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I guess I best freeze my rice then if most do it this way. After looking at my rice it doesn't seem to have grown legs etc.. :lol:

You can buy a stove with 8 cans for £20. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORTABLE-CAMP ... 540a8b2bce But you can also get a dual stove for the same price but no cans.

I think I paid £15 with 4 cans not long ago at my local market place.
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For long term storage I put my rice, couscous, etc straight into mylar bags with oxy absorbers. Not large amounts - maybe 500g at a time. Suppose I should really freeze it beforehand to kill any bugs but there's never any room in the freezer!
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hobo wrote: As far as I know, butane is not good for cooking or heating indoors because of carbon monoxide build up. I've just bought a Mr Heater Little Buddy propane heater from a friend. It's marketed as an indoor heater. Propane also gives off carbon monoxide, although this heater comes with a safety cut off feature. I won't be using it without a separate carbon monoxide detector or in unventilated room though.

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Sorry mate, other way round

Butane for heating inside, Propane for outdoors/industrial use.

Propane can be used in permanent systems like boilers or stoves/fires with a flue, but mobile stuff should be butane

I'm sure we've got a heating engineer on here somewhere who could explain why this is so
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