New Prepper from the North West

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Dusty4905
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New Prepper from the North West

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Hi and thank you for allowing me to join this forum.

I was impressed with the excellent information shared on here and the realistic approach to the idea of prepping.

A little about me: I'm 37, served ten years in the Military Police before leaving in 2008. Had a good job, beautiful partner and baby daughter. In 2010 my 27 yr old partner was diagnosed with cancer and she passed away in early 2015.

We lost everything as my partner had no life insurance (my job / home / car) as we used everything we had to fund private treatment.

I was entirely unprepared and paid a high price for that and I vowed to never be caught out in that way again for the sake of my daughter. So I am now a big believer in preparing in all aspects of life...

I've taken care of the family admin points and now want to prepare for any other eventuality. I've recently got back into hiking, living on the edge of the Peaks I'm very fortunate.

I'm sorting a BOB but would appreciate a few pointers in a couple of areas if possible please:

Food - can anyone recommend nutritious vegetarian (yes I said it :-) ) long life, easily transportable food (either dehydrated or boil in the bag) that isn't totally awful?

The bag itself - I've held off buying the bag as I'm struggling - I'm eyeing up the 5.11 72 hr rush as I prefer non-tac colour and lower profile but very open to suggestions / personal recommendations?

Thank you for taking the time to read my post and I'm looking forward to getting to know you....
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Re: New Prepper from the North West

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Hello and welcome to the Forum.

Thank you for your Service and sorry for your loss.

Dehydrated food can be expensive, the best cost a lot: Real Turmat (Norwegian) and Packet Gourmet(USA) are especially nice.


Have you thought of making your own? Some good threads on the Forum regarding this.
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Dusty4905
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Re: New Prepper from the North West

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Thank you and for the advice.

My girlfriend is a chef so I can't believe I hadn't thought of making our own!!

I am a gucchi kit whore I'm afraid so often miss a trick :-(

I will defo check out the threads :-)
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Re: New Prepper from the North West

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Welcome to the forum.. my ex was a veggie every time we went camping she would take bachelors flavoured rice for her meals they taste ok go well on their own or with other bits thrown in. their cheap, pretty filling and take up very little room :)
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Re: New Prepper from the North West

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Nice too see you on here bud, sounds like you've had a tough time. Glad you're able to look to the future though. The best prep for life is a positive state of mind and it sounds like you've nailed it.

Regarding vegetarian... I'd be living on halloumi and mozzarella. Vegan? Screwed because you're living on mushrooms. :D

Regarding bag - I've got the Maxpedition Vulture II (72 litre) which I got on eBay for £60. I've been much inspired by youtube USA EDC and bugout bag videos. It's a really nice bit of kit, but it's not as big as I could probably use. That's a mixed blessing because it assures that you don't over pack. If I were you though, I'd be looking at low profile bags, mine is a really bright green colour and I stand out like a sore thumb - not good.
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Re: New Prepper from the North West

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I think it was Deeps who said about bags, go and try some on to find a comfy one.

Also, before you buy a bag, decide what you are filling it for and what you want to carry.
Are you planning for Armageddon or local flooding? Are you planning to run off to the hills with your family, or is your plan to decamp to a hotel/B&B out of the area.
If you want to live in the wilds, you'll need gear for you, your girlfriend and daughter and 3 good bags(one each) to carry it. That in itself brings up another question, do your family WANT to live in the wilds for a time or not? are they capapble of carrying the loads required (do they even want to carry a bag)?
If on the other hand, you plan on using a hotel a good suitcase will be fine. We have a little acronym on here HOB (Hotel Bag) similar to a BOB but for those of us who plan to run away to an Hotel. :lol:
Just a few thoughts to get your teeth into. :)

One final thought, When I used to go backpacking I could fit everything for 4 days, including food, but excluding water in/on a medium ALICE pack and kept the weight under 15kg.


PS Check out the Hungry Hammock Hanger for home made dehydrated meal ideas https://www.youtube.com/user/MrBabelfish5?feature=watch

The Backpacking Chef http://www.backpackingchef.com/

Take a Walk Tucker http://www.takeawalk.com.au/TakeAWalkTucker.htm

I've used all three and had very successful holidays and very envious campers investigating my meals! :lol:
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Re: New Prepper from the North West

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Thanks guys, really great information.

I'll do some homework and come back :-)
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Re: New Prepper from the North West

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Welcome mate, it sounds like you've been through it, hopefully the bad stuff is behind you now.

I hope you find plenty of good stuff on here, this site has helped me to think about what I'm actually prepping for and to have more of a focus rather than just a vague 'just in case' which was quite haphazard. If you know what your prepping strategy is then you can work towards your priorities, don't feel the need to rush out and but a load of stuff just so you have it, I've bought stuff like this, cheap stuff that ends up getting replaced so its a waste of money.

As Brambles says about bags, comfort is paramount and you need to think what it is you need it for. Are you going to be living out of it for the 3 days plus scenario and do you want to look like you're still in the Army or do you want to be more 'gray man' ? Get yourself down to a Go Outdoors or the like and try on different bags, I've got a long back and some of the shorter bags niggle (although I'm sure there's an element of imagination involved :lol: ) but if you're paying good money then get what works for you. Same for clothing, you've done your time so probably not too bothered about 'dressing up like a pongo' and playing in the woods, especially with the wee one and there's plenty of quality gear about that won't mark you down as 'equipped' if you end up in an excrement/revolving cooling instrument interaction.

As for veggie scran, do you eat fish ? Mrs Deeps used to be veg only but thankfully eats fish now, especially eating out it gives her so many more options. If you don't get yourself a dehydrator (even if you do eat fish, they're great) and as has been said, you can knock your own meals together using noodles, rice or pasta etc. There's plenty threads in the food section that might be of interest to you. I get a real sense of satisfaction out of the dehydrator, a lot more than I expected.

There's plenty of stuff to keep the grey matter going, try and enjoy it too, despite what some of us think, there is a sort of hobby element to prepping, we wouldn't do it if there wasn't some sort of appeal in it as well as the practical side of things. Good luck.
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Re: New Prepper from the North West

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Brilliant information, thank you all. Definately thinking more about food options and the advice to try on bags before deciding is invaluable.

Deeps, in particular your suggestions resonated with me, thank you :-)

I am as far from the You Tube image of a UK based prepper as you can get (at least I think I am ;-) ), I see it as matter of pride that none of my kit is DPM as I an not comfortable with how useful that kit would be in an emergency - generally it isn't the best (lowest bidders win contracts), it may send the wrong message and could scare off people who may need your help / could help you, and could be seen as threatening and may be met with pre-emptive aggression :-).

My musings, as random as they are, are these, but I would be greatful of others insights please:

1. I believe that prepping applies to all areas of life and is actually simply a state of responsibility for my family and myself - by that I mean that there is a tangible cost every time the emergency services are called out to assist anyone, both a monetary cost and the risk that if you are being helped then those limited resources are unavailable for someone else who may need them more - e.g. I love hiking and if I went out on the hills without taking adequate kit and precautions then I would potentially become a liability and that isn't right imo.

2. I want to be ready for any immediate, short term emergency (eg RTC, power cut, accident in the home), I couldn't live with myself if a loved one was further harmed because I didn't have the right kit / skills available - in my view having a minimum of an hv vest and first aid kit in your car should be mandatory, as I believe it is in some European countries. With rapid blood loss being the most likely cause of death in an emergency, any responsible person should have the kit and requisite knowledge to tackle this if nothing else.

3. Self sufficiency - in the event of flooding, power loss, fuel strike/lack of availability (with the lack of stock deliveries in supermarkets that would result), everyone should have the capability to not only look after themselves for a week or more from reserves but also to look after the most vulnerable in society. At no other time in human history have we as a population been so reliant on a daily shop, tap water and the statutory authorites to save us in an emergency (even localised) and I believe that is a dangerous thing.

4. Hobby element (hopefully) - I admit it, I'm a giant kid! I love the idea of prepping for a global emergency.... I have had some of biggest belly chuckles ever watching the You Tube video of the young lad who has stockpiled 12 emergency blankets to project himself from a nuclear blast! The same kid had an NBC (CBRN) suit (with no boots, respirator or gloves) but no toilet roll or money saved. The homemade sub premise on this forum..... some of your comments... 'arrrghh me harties!' I love 'collecting ' gucchi kit, trying it out and attempting to thrive rather than survive (recent Bear Grylls / Ed Stafford cliche alert :roll: ) when in the crapest conditions I can manufacture for myself.

5. I love the idea of self-sufficiency and owning a small holding )although I am entirely unqualified and totally inexperienced to do so. My hero is Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall, or perhaps I'm just jealous?

6. I would love to meet like minded people, particularly those local to me in order to build a community and share knowledge and experience - lets face it, in the worst case scenario, where the wheels truly come off, none of us can do it alone. We would need to become part of a diverse community made up of people with many different skill sets to possibly hope to start again.

Well that's my thoughts on the concept of prepping and I would love to hear you thoughts and hope to start discussion.

Cheers,

Dusty