Trama Kit

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Moorland Prepper
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Trama Kit

Post by Moorland Prepper »

Anyone any recommendations for a trama kit/first aid kit?

I'm not really sure what I need so other people's ideas are most welcome.
Yorkshire Andy
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Re: Trama Kit

Post by Yorkshire Andy »

What are your perceived risks? And have you done any trauma / catastrophic bleeding training?
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong ;)

Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Moorland Prepper
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Re: Trama Kit

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Hi Andy

I suppose the main risk is illness and being unable to get medical help.

Anyone can slip, trip, cut themselves and just have an accident.

I've had no training.

All that we have now are sticking plasters, Germolene, asprins, and similar.

I don't feel that it is enough but I'm not sure what I want.
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Re: Trama Kit

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Moorland Prepper wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:58 pm Hi Andy

I suppose the main risk is illness and being unable to get medical help.

Anyone can slip, trip, cut themselves and just have an accident.

I've had no training.

All that we have now are sticking plasters, Germolene, asprins, and similar.

I don't feel that it is enough but I'm not sure what I want.
The best thing is to get trained. With the training,you learn the ‘mechanics’ of first aid,and the spin- off is improvising kit. ;) I am fishing tomorrow,and I always carry a small kit. A few plasters,micropore tape,a small bandage and an ‘ ambulance bandage’, which is basically a civilian trauma bandage. That little kit will cover me for hooks in my person,a real cut or wound ( saw a lad jump a fence one time an impale himself by his thigh!), and as I fish alone,I always have whistle. Also, one of the best things is a smartphone. My trainer hailed this tool as valuable,as you can be located via it. My wife can also track me through mine ,and of course,I give a location and time of return home. Oh yes,and my phone is in a dry- case ,just in case I end up in the river- it has happened! :lol: :oops:

Regarding aspirin,germolene and the like,they are not allowed in a proper first aid kit - pills and potions are for the doctor to decide. If a wound needs cleaning ,it’s better with sterile water,or even bottled water,prior to dressing it.
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Nurseandy
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Re: Trama Kit

Post by Nurseandy »

As Yorkshire Andy & jansman say get trained. Knowing what to do & why is immeasurably better than having a gucci fak and no idea how to use the shiny things inside.
Do a beginners course then a 3 or 5 day course then you'll know what you want in your fak.
Yorkshire Andy
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Now I'm home :lol:

A trauma kit is generally a separate kit to a standard first aid kit......

A trauma kit deals with immediately life threatening catastrophic bleed.. when that happens you don't have time to rummage through a assorted 200 piece first aid kit (fak)

Example of trauma kit:

https://controlthebleed.org.uk/promethe ... l-kit.html

A first aid kit covers most normal day to day injuries

https://www.screwfix.com/p/wallace-came ... arge/86399

And slap it in a old ice-cream tub :lol:

If it's for home use no harm in putting antiseptic lotions potions and pills in it just don't go slapping germoline on a stranger who falls outside your house :lol:
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong ;)

Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Moorland Prepper
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Re: Trama Kit

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Hi Yorkshire Andy

The distinction between a trauma kit and first aid kit is now clear and, at the moment it's a first aid kit that i need.

I'll check on training for trauma skills.

Thanks everyone
Yorkshire Andy
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Moorland Prepper wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:01 pm Hi Yorkshire Andy

The distinction between a trauma kit and first aid kit is now clear and, at the moment it's a first aid kit that i need.

I'll check on training for trauma skills.

Thanks everyone

Tue first aid at work course used to have an additional "f" certification for Forrestery type work and the damage inflicted by chainsaws etc

The newer coursed have a catastrophic bleeding section which covers major bleeds it was introduced about 6 years back I'm guessing due to the increased Terrorism threats et all


But if you don't have the kit? Then what :o

Well if you don't have any kids looking over your shoulder watch this guessing that the initial starting for first few minutes is to dodge the YouTube moderators the casualty is a world champion mountain biker....

https://youtu.be/gsHz1IlLVyg

It gets interesting at about 1:30 :shock:

But him and his mates managed very well he's still alive ... You can't get a better result than that ;)

Only additional bit if have done is used a shirt or strips of
it to pack the gash then stick the knee in
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong ;)

Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Yorkshire Andy
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Re: Trama Kit

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For an example I've a pile of these which are "out of date" but to use on me / family ... The ambulance service will tell you to use a tea towel / clothing if pushed so it can't be worse than that date or no date :lol:



I've opened one too see what condition they are in well the elastic is still very elastic and I managed to cut the blood supply off to My foot wrapping it round my thigh even with trousers on .....



So the outer wrapper rips open revealing a inner wrapper (probably why they keep so well it's got a large knotch to rip down





This one is a 6" pad




The elastic bandage is thick thing one of the tube bandages type of thickness easily 5" as thick as a standard first aid bandage..

And fairly long. .


Standard colouring pencils give a idea of length can I find a tape measure in the house so it's a Casio watch sized pad and X pencils long :lol:




You can get it tight very tight once the initial wrap is done you can really pull the elastic tight...






And it's got a locking clip to slide through a few layers and clip it shut to secure it .
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If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong ;)

Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Frnc
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Re: Trama Kit

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Moorland Prepper wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:58 pm Hi Andy

I suppose the main risk is illness and being unable to get medical help.

Anyone can slip, trip, cut themselves and just have an accident.

I've had no training.

All that we have now are sticking plasters, Germolene, asprins, and similar.

I don't feel that it is enough but I'm not sure what I want.
To start with, you could get something like this
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/St-John-Ambu ... 07VC85N1M/
Plus some eye baths, saline pods. I tend to keep extra plasters and antiseptic cream for day to day use so I don't need to raid the first aid it. I keep extra sterile wipes and gloves. And a bottle of antiseptic rubbing alcohol.

You can buy individual dressings from St John or elsewhere as items reach their expiry dates.