Waste problems
Waste problems
Ok so most of as will bug in but what is your plans for managing the rubbish and the waste? Where you will put the food and packing remains?
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Nothing more to add, Ian has concisely said it all!Ian wrote:Bash, burn, bury.
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All the above.
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Re: Waste problems
a fair comment....
how can this work in a flat for more than a few days .....? Anybody thought about this one ....... ?
how can this work in a flat for more than a few days .....? Anybody thought about this one ....... ?
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Well, I guess consideration should be given to what you are buying now and the packaging it is in. The less the better for disposing of if tshtf.
Other than that, you would need to be flattening squashing etc and getting as much as possible into black bags before doing a midnight dash to dump it somewhere.
If you have a balcony is there a possibility you could have a small fire pit and therefore be able to burn some of it?
On some of our threads we discussed the need to make our homes look uninhabitated and that rubbish etc strewn around would do the job.
Other than that, you would need to be flattening squashing etc and getting as much as possible into black bags before doing a midnight dash to dump it somewhere.
If you have a balcony is there a possibility you could have a small fire pit and therefore be able to burn some of it?
On some of our threads we discussed the need to make our homes look uninhabitated and that rubbish etc strewn around would do the job.
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And there's re-use, of course. If electricity was down, the burning would be to start a fire to heat food or keep warm, not just to get rid of whatever it is you're burning.
A fire pit is absolutely feasible inside a flat. In the 1990s, in Turkey, I often saw people have a brazier on a big thick metal plate, like a portable fireplace, it was wonderful. And it was in the centre of the room, everybody could have some warmth.
Of course, there's human waste as well. And if the water's off, thats going to create some big, big problems. There are some uses for urine as a marker to warn off wild animals, and as a compost activator (this was discussed on another thread) and I reckon I could use the front of my house like they did in medieval times, chuck it out the window. Faeces, tho; if you bury them in your own land, you're messing up your own soil. If you go outside your own perimeter to bury them, you're vulnerable. Dry and burn? People burn camel dung and horse dung as fuel, don't they. I guess we all learn to make compost toilets in a hurry.
A fire pit is absolutely feasible inside a flat. In the 1990s, in Turkey, I often saw people have a brazier on a big thick metal plate, like a portable fireplace, it was wonderful. And it was in the centre of the room, everybody could have some warmth.
Of course, there's human waste as well. And if the water's off, thats going to create some big, big problems. There are some uses for urine as a marker to warn off wild animals, and as a compost activator (this was discussed on another thread) and I reckon I could use the front of my house like they did in medieval times, chuck it out the window. Faeces, tho; if you bury them in your own land, you're messing up your own soil. If you go outside your own perimeter to bury them, you're vulnerable. Dry and burn? People burn camel dung and horse dung as fuel, don't they. I guess we all learn to make compost toilets in a hurry.
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Horse dung is full of non digested fibre from there diet thats why it burns so well once dry I don't think human waste would burn well and the problem is drying it in a sanitary way my advice is get out of the flat or once the SHTF find a empty house "one with a TO LET sign in the front garden no one is going to look for you in a advertised empty building just have a bug out bag and maybe a car/van full of supplies or clear out to the country find a pub with all the windows metal boarded over and take up residence in one already has the windows doors covered and the toilets in old pubs tend to be old metal urinal types that can self drain there are loads out my way closed down most have large gardens and some have security fencing around them they could be a good place to keep your head down and have cellars.
Anyway back to the original post from my experience of solid human waste if it doesn't mix with wee so keep them separate it will compost quick and does not smell half as bad as urine so get that gone asap the rest just needs burning or burying as has been said just MO thanks
Anyway back to the original post from my experience of solid human waste if it doesn't mix with wee so keep them separate it will compost quick and does not smell half as bad as urine so get that gone asap the rest just needs burning or burying as has been said just MO thanks