My 'pig knife' ....

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My 'pig knife' ....

Post by Squawk »

We are the sum of our experiences ... and one of mine was getting 'treed' three times, twice by herds of wild pigs in the jungle. The end result is that I have an aversion to wild pigs and a love of roast pork !. So when I got around to thinking about making a camp knife that would fit into a tobacco tin survival kit, I also wanted it to be capable of taking out wild pigs and butchering them ... and that is why the end product looks a bit weird !.
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As shown above it is a general use camp knife suitable for butchering animals, birds, fish, making shelters and traps etc. To be legal it had to have a blade shorter than 3".

Getting a defensive weapon into a tobacco tin, that was also capable of killing a wild boar or a deer, was a little more challenging !. The solution turned out to look more like a harpoon where the steel blade part is meant to separate from the shaft after the target has been hit. Since I could not get a five foot long shaft into the tobacco tin, I decided it would have to be cut in the field, using the tool as a knife. The actual knife was made from a stainless steel cooks knife that had a hollow handle, which gives the socket for the shaft.

In practice one can expect a wild pig to make a run for it after being speared and then we have to track it until it drops. When it runs, there is not much the hunter can do to stop it. What we can do is make sure that during the run the extent of the wound is increased, to cut down the distance the pig can run. The second photograph shows how this can be done and not lose the knife.
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The steel pin is not there to secure the knife to the shaft as the shaft will probably get broken off during the pigs run. It is there to enable about two meters of para cord to be tied onto the knife. The other end of the para cord is secured to the shaft, about 50 cm from one end. Now when the pig makes it's run, it will be trailing the shaft behind it, which will catch on any obstructions until it finally rips the knife out of the pig, greatly enlarging the wound cavity and reducing the duration of the run.

The knife I made to fit into the tobacco tine only has a 1 1/2" blade and the good news is that this can be legally twice this length. If we make up a simple sheath for it, we can also double the length of the handle, to make it more comfortable for general camp use. It should be noted that although owning such a knife is legal, displaying it openly in a public place will get you arrested. Keep it in your pack, until you get to your camp site.

Para cord, dental floss and fishing line can be stored by winding it around the handle and the normally empty socket used to store fishing line, hooks, tinder and picture wire for snares.
Technik

Re: My 'pig knife' ....

Post by Technik »

It looks like a good knife but there's one thing that I don't understand. You're saying that you had bad experiences with wild pigs and now all you want to do is kill and eat them.... ? I've been bitten by dogs, horses, ferrets and rats, I fell off one crazy horse every time I was on it - but can't see myself hating all those animals and now killing and eating them. Why would I. If you invade the space of another being (be it human or animal) then you can expect some form of reaction. You should respect their space and respect the being, not hate it for what it is. I respect all of those animals that have hurt me in the past and now add more caution when approaching them or their territory. And the crazy horse - couple months later had an accident in the stables where he took a full sprint in a wall and smashed his head really bad. He survived and only then someone had a good look at him and diagnosed him with depression. Poor thing.

This planet doesn't belong to us humans, we share it and should respect all our neighbours.

Don't take it as a go at you Squawk. I just wanted to show you the other side of the medal.
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Re: My 'pig knife' ....

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Looks like a good bit of skill used to make it, well done.

Just a note though, under 3" or not, is illegal to carry around without a good reason and I'm not sure your aversion to wild pigs would be acceptable to plod! Worthwhile keeping in mind if you plan to keep it out and about. The guys at UK Bushcraft have done a really goo article about this and can be found at: http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8233

edit: I see your note at the foot of the post about legality, just trying to make the matter a little clearer regarding:
Squawk wrote: To be legal it had to have a blade shorter than 3".

Getting a defensive weapon ...

... only has a 1 1/2" blade and the good news is that this can be legally twice this length....
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Re: My 'pig knife' ....

Post by 12mp82 »

Interesting little knife that, but it could still fall foul of the UK legal system.
What constitutes a good reason is a matter for common sense, the police and the courts. There is no exhaustible list defined in law. If you think you have a good reason and a police officer disagrees, it'll be up to the courts to decide your fate.
I somehow doubt you would be carrying it around openly, so probably wouldn't give good cause for them to go looking for it in the pack you would have it in.
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Re: My 'pig knife' ....

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This thread is now locked as much of what is being discussed is skirting around the edges of legality, and some of it beyond.