a homemade firebowl

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loreal1968

a homemade firebowl

Post by loreal1968 »

i im a keen pinterest searcher, just found this firebowl with instructions how to make.
hope it ok to post link, loreal http://b3hd.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/proj ... 1-diy.html
loreal1968

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i read the reviews under the article, which does mention concerns of the stones getting too hot and possible shattering, or the alternative of sitting a candle in the middle. just an idea
sg4

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Unless im mistaken chaffing dish gel will never get hot enough to shatter stone. Just make sure there dry before if unsure
mongrel

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"Fun ambiance" seems a lot of work for a wee flame, maybe boil for a brew but not much else!
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Re: a homemade firebowl

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Looks very cute, but is there a UK cost breakdown of the "ingredients"? And can you design one with expansion capabilities? It might look good, but one has to think about the practicalities of the thing.

And do you just wish to use chafing dish sized burners?

IMHO (and just MHO) is my solution was a little better. A cheap chimnea from a budget shop and three 1/2 bioethanol burning tins placed inside.

Although I make my own alcohol to burn, when the autumn comes and because of the possibilities of brownout and all that jazz, I may buy 100 or 200 L of commercially available ethanol to keep the edge off the cold and give me cooking / tea making / hot water fuel for when it gets a bit chilly.
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a homemade firebowl

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nickdutch wrote:Looks very cute, but is there a UK cost breakdown of the "ingredients"? And can you design one with expansion capabilities? It might look good, but one has to think about the practicalities of the thing.

And do you just wish to use chafing dish sized burners?

IMHO (and just MHO) is my solution was a little better. A cheap chimnea from a budget shop and three 1/2 bioethanol burning tins placed inside.

Although I make my own alcohol to burn, when the autumn comes and because of the possibilities of brownout and all that jazz, I may buy 100 or 200 L of commercially available ethanol to keep the edge off the cold and give me cooking / tea making / hot water fuel for when it gets a bit chilly.
Hi Nick, how do you make your alcohol and what do you use it in for heat etc?


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I make alcohol for fuel using fermentation of bread yeast in the same way that you make wine or beer. 5 gallon bucket, sterilized. 3 sachets of bread yeast and 4 and 1/2 Kg of sugar.

The distiller is a Turbo 500 that was gifted to me (very kindly) by a person on the internet who was thankful for the good that I have done him.

If you google around and youtube around for "moonshine" you will find different ways of making a kitchen table (I.E., home made) still from a good second hand pressure cooker and some plumbing parts.

It may be possible to use a good quality counter top distiller / water purifier (not a cheap Chinese one like I got a while ago) and many repeated distillations. Look out for ones with stainless steel insides and not plastic which can be corroded by heat and ethanol.

Clean and sterilize all the equipment using wine and beer sterilizer or clean thoroughly and use a combination of a high power electric UVC wand and liquid alcohol (to kill germs in the places where the light can't get). the second method is cheaper and if you take your time over it it may be as good as chemical cleaning.

Add the sugar to the bucket, pour in hot water to dissolve the sugar. Add alternating hot (boiled) and cold water to fill the 5 gallon container and get the temp to 40 C measured with a good mercury thermometer. Add some wine and beer nutrient and then add the bread yeast. If you have any "turbo carbon" as used in home drinking alcohol making, then add that too. Seal it and leave for 4 weeks to ferment, checking the strength periodically with a hydrometer.

When its all done fermenting and the strength is as high as you think it will go, add wine finings as per the instruction on the packet. leave to settle for 24 hours or more.

Rack the alcohol solution into the distiller and distill in accordance with the manufacturers instructions. You may need a few Ml of distillers conditioner and a few ceramic boil enhancers to reduce the risk of surge boiling. (Wine Works / Love Brewing is a UK online shop that provides distillation supplies)

In accordance with the 2007 law of the UK, it is perfectly legal to make fuel alcohol at home without a permit so long as you keep records of the making process, quantities and use. So long as it is not used in a vehicule engine or drunk recreationally or otherwise, you will be fine.

If you did want to use it in an engine (for fuel purposes) you may have to use Zeolite to help bring the water content down. Steve Harris goes into that in depth.
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