Prepping Report (A Start)

[sfcfinchrs]

Hi all,

Here we go. I am thinking that the direction I will be going with my posts will be broken up into subject areas. I tend to get long winded so please be gentle.

First a few disclaimers are in order.

-I will most likely be covering things that others have covered, so take what I offer with a grain of salt. This all is from my view point and I want to stress each of us has our own unique journey to follow. There are no standard answers to the challenges we face.

-If I provide information on a product or company that sells such. I only do so as a form of review. I have and will never have any connection to any of these other than being a consumer that has purchased and have come to the opinion that I am happy with my purchase. I will do this many times to illustrate my point on the "bulk buy" line of thought I have embraced. I also do it in the hope that someone else may benefit from the tireless amount of time I spend trying to get the biggest gain for the £.

-I will try very hard to stay true to my current guiding principles. I don't do Politics, Religion, Advocacy of Violence or anything that causes anything but constructive debate. I intend to strive to have a thick skin in relation to this. If I post some advice that you don't agree with, No worries. I remember a lesson taught to me many years ago by a VERY old soldier in a very hostile place. I asked "Did I do that correctly?" he answered "I don't know. Did it work?". The lesson is take what is presented and if it is of value, use what works for you in a way that works for you.

Ok, so on to the context.

This world of ours is a pretty darn complicated place. Prepping is indeed a lifestyle for my family. We have turned it into a bit of a hobby. This has allowed for us to approach things in a way that gains immediate value along with the value of a long term insurance policy. Works for us, may not work for you. So that being said, as with most there has been a great deal of discussion about what we are prepping for. We have come to a few conclusions. We have no way of predicting with a high degree of success what is going to happen. From personal experience I know that "Murphy" as in "Murphy's Law" loves to come up with as many curve balls he can to mess things up. So we are prepping with an eye on categories of potential. When looked at in this way we were able to understand that many times the threat did not matter as much as being flexible enough to be able to react well enough to be OK.

So we have concentrated on flexibility and hopefully a bit of common sense. No I admit straight away that we are just as prone to getting carried away with things as the next person. So we just go with it. So I may say we did something in our preps that you may think is a bit overboard. Take it with a grain of salt. At least we are having fun with our excess.

As has been covered many times there are arenas of concentration when it comes to prepping. These are things such as shelter, food, water, health and safety. What I hope to do is take these on in separate topic specific threads if the Mods are ok with that. If not I will keep it in this thread. Just let me know.

Not to the general philosophy. I am a firm believer that being prepared means having the tools and planning in place to handle what life throws at you. In a military setting this means that you exist comfortably in a world of semi-controlled chaos. The old saying "A plan survives up to the point the first bullet flies" is VERY applicable. So the big question. How do you do it? Think Tactically and Strategically. A difficult thing to do. Think of it this way. Layer your approach to prepping into the immediate, the short term and the long term. You can take this approach and apply it to every part of your prepping.

So I will be addressing my posts in this manner for a better understanding of the subject matter.

So are we bugging out or bugging in? Going lone wolf or trying to do the "community thing" like I wish to. Ask me the day after. We are prepping for all and any of the above. Resilience and flexibility are bywords for us.

Lets take the simple felling axe as an example. You can pick one up cheaply. In your hands it can accomplish a great deal. In the hands of you and a few others, it can accomplish so much more. It is robust and has a long history of useful utility. It is portable enough that you can carry it. So the conclusion? = Might be a good idea to have one. Do I have one? = Yep. Do I have a chainsaw? = Yep (I'm old so I want to work smart, not hard). Yet I know that I have that axe as a foundation to my wood cutting needs.

"Foundation" is a good term. We start our preps at the foundation level and then work up. This allows us to feel safer in a faster timeline. If the foundation is strong then we can do cool stuff later. A catapult is a foundation item. You can take small game with it. The more complex small game hunting tools can come later.

Think a bit like the pioneers of America if it helps. I fully recommend reading the Foxfire Series of books if you get the chance. Aside from being very entertaining, they provide a wealth of knowledge. The people interviewed in those books lived the life of doing a great deal with very little.

Finding what you need to fulfill your foundation needs in an area of prepping can be difficult, so be patient and think a great deal. Do you really need to buy that cool £200 tent? Think about the role that the tent needs to play for you. A tent is a portable shelter. It is also a temporary shelter. Yes it needs to be of good quality. I have yet to see one that will allow you to live out of it full time for years and last the test of time. So will a cheaper tent do what you need or do you only need a Basha? Is it to much weight to carry in a nomadic lifestyle? Eventually you are going to need more tangible shelter. So going with the foundation thought process. I would carry a basha and that trusty felling axe. Yes I have a machete and in my past life had to hack down trees with one. By the way jungles really suck..... Yet the machete is for brush, vines and the like. You want to cut down a tree, use the axe. Remember work smart, not hard.

The subject of clothing was for a time a sore subject in my house. Try and get a fashion conscious teen to wear army surplus. Now it's no issue. Once tried and liked things go better. Military Surplus is a great resource. It does what it says on the tin. I highly recommend using that resource. If you think you need 5 T-shirts then find a deal for 10 or 20. The price per item is cheaper. Remember Primark may not be having sales after SHTF. You may think that may be excessive. Yet remember resilience and flexibility. Better to have it for need of the longer term and have to leave it behind if required than to not have it in the long run.

I have seen a great deal of discussion on scavenging. I would never recommend relying on scavenging for foundation items if at all possible. They are to important.

Ok so thank you all for letting me share so far. More to come later.

[butterbean]

great post, i look forward to reading more of yours

thats a good way of looking at things, I'm trying to lay down the foundations of my prepping now

[2ndRateMind]

Thanks for that. I'm still building up my 'foundation/immediate' preps, having a (very) limited budget. Could you expand on things you think fall into this category?

Thanks, 2RM.

[seve7n]

Nice post

I look forward to more )

[sfcfinchrs]

Hi all.

I thought I would continue with this thread for an explanation of what I call foundation items for prepping. I will start new threads for individual subject areas as I gather my thoughts together.

Due to my past life experiences prepping comes a bit more naturally to me. so I do need to stop and think about how I need to word things when communicating our approach to prepping. As usual I want to put a bit of a disclaimer out there. What I am describing is based upon my life's lessons and experiences. By no means am I saying my approach is the best or only way to go. I post this stuff with the hope that it may be of use to someone.

No onto what I call foundation items in prepping.

We had a bit of a funny turn last month that relates to this subject. As usual I was looking at how far we have come in our preps and what we need to keep working on. Out of the blue I realized that we had indeed a pretty large hole in our preps. Soap. The simple and humble bar of soap was completely missing from our preps. This came about from my thinking about where we may be missing things in our personal hygiene preps. Wow.... talk about a bit of a ooops.

So I started to look at how to fill the hole. Now I said the humble bar of soap for a good reason. I don't think modern society's huge selection of cleaning products have a place in a preppers plans. So I stepped back in time a bit and took a lesson from the past. Once upon a time the humble bar of Coal Tar Soap (Referred to as Carbolic Soap now days) was used for all of your washing needs. Take a cheese grater to it with a few swipes over your wash bowl and you are good to wash your clothes or the dishes.

Now I wish to place the humble Bar of Carbolic Soap as the shining example of a foundation Item for prepping. It is cheap, lasts a long time and it does what it say on the tin big time.

so lets look a bit more towards the foundation building methodology of prepping.

Lets start with the individual person. Remember this is influenced by my military background.

Each individual MUST have a Bergen. No matter if you are bugging in or bugging out. That bag must be of military quality and as large as possible. There is a method to the madness. The military quality ensures that it will not fall apart on you as quickly as the less well made stuff. Believe me, things will break on you at the worst time. The statement of the bag needing to be as large as possible is a bit of common sense. You can always tighten straps to make up for space not used. Yet on a smaller bag, once you run out of room your stuffed. You can only hang so much to the outside of a bag and stuff hanging all over the place is not really a good idea.

Now this Bergen has a very important roll to play. This is your bedroom. We will set aside a few items or categories for the moment so that we do not muddy the waters. Think of it this way. This bag and it's contents is all you as the individual has. This is your wardrobe, your bathroom cupboard, Your house, Kitchen and everything else. So you MUST ensure that everything that the individual needs is in the bag. This is where foundation items become important.

Lets take shelter as an example. Build your foundation. Buy a military grade poncho or basha and some para cord first. Then you can buy that tent you saw on sale. I have slept countless nights in all weather situations under a poncho strung between trees. It works. It is also smaller than that tent when packing it into your bag. So have the foundation item in your bag for when the tent gets a rip in it. So you see this is a having your cake and eating it situation. You have and use the tent, with the foundation being there if you need it.

Now lets look at what you wear. Pack into your bag two complete sets of clothing (one to wash and one ready to wear if you get caught and get soaked.). Then you need to add undergarments and socks. When I say undergarments I mean both t-shirts and thermal underwear. Pack for all seasons. Better to have it when you need it than to not have it. Remember this bag is the sum total of what you as an individual needs to have at a bare minimum. Add to this a healthy amount of socks. You cant have to many socks. Have a sleeping bag and a sleeping pad on your list. Make sure you have a personal hygiene kit in the bag. Keep on top of personal hygiene... Getting sick when the NHS is closed for business is an easy way to get to the pearly gates.

I hope you are beginning to see where I am going with this so far. Get on the net and do a search on the packing list for modern infantryman. This will give you an idea.

Now don't stress about the fact that you cannot carry everything in a single Bergen. Concentrate on getting the biggest bang for the space and weight. The Bergen is the last refuge. It is your go to hell option.

Then you can do the bigger stuff. Making a small pull behind trailer is a good idea. Or you can buy one.

Now in terms of food and water...... Water is heavy.... Trust me in the jungles of Panama I used to carry between 8 and 10 Liters of water when on patrol. So I have a good piece advice. Carry a days worth of water about 3 Liters in your gear ready to use. Then carry the means to purify any water you find to replenish for the next day. In the UK your OK for this.

In terms of food..... I am going to upset people here. You have three friends here. Number one is Rice. Number two is dried pulses. the last is veg of any sort. You can get by on the rice and pulses for a very long time. In terms of size and weight ratios for packing them, they come out on top. Add a single multivitamin per day to the mix and you can survive in good health. Pack these for a foundation. A Half cup of rice and a half cup of pulses (lentils, Kidney Beans and such) with a stock cube will make a meal that will keep you going.

With me so far?

[butterbean]

another fine post on what, i think, will become a very popular thread.

please, keep them coming.

[sfcfinchrs]

Thanks for that. I'm still building up my 'foundation/immediate' preps, having a (very) limited budget. Could you expand on things you think fall into this category?

Thanks, 2RM.

I should have answered your question earlier.

The 99p and pound stores are great for foundation building. A person can go a long way towards building their foundation in these places. We do.....

[southernhunter]

Very interesting read, looking forward to keeping up with the rest. You're not that far from me, if you ever get into Dorset and fancy comparing notes let me know!

[sfcfinchrs]

Will do southernhunter.

Sorry I have not continued my posts as of yet. Been occupied doing some chores.

I will post soon though.

[sfcfinchrs]

Ok... So I have a bit of time to spare so I wanted to cover something while I had the time.

Whether you are buggin-in or bugging-out, you are going to have to transport at some point more than you can carry on your back. Ok... so the old saying "Young men work hard and Old men work smart" comes to mind.

Get yourself or even better make yourself a trailer of some sort that you can pull heavier weights. Look in a pinch you can bodge together from the wheels of a push bike and some wood.

Heck an old shopping cart from a grocery store will do in a pinch.

The moral of the story is........ get yourself the ability to transport stuff manually.

Cheers