Vehicle prep

[Tiercel]

In all honesty if the SHTF right now this instant so severely that it warranted leaving my home, Id have no idea where to go... its all well and good having a BOV (mines a pretty well prepared landrover that Im slowly kitting out as an overland expedition vehicle, one of my dream's is to tour the world with it living out of my Landy) but what would you do with it?

Ive got nowhere to go, the main roads would be clogged (whoever designed the road system for this town did a shockingly poor job, I reckon they gave a bit of paper and some crayons to a toddler to design it). Ive got family on the coast down in Cornwall, who live in a fairly remote tiny village I suppose I could head there, but its a near 200 mile trip and the roads would most likely be impassible, unless I could use greenlanes the whole way, I imagine even then small B roads would get clogged as well, whilst motorways and A roads would become carparks.

I should probably put some more thought into this.... especially as Hinkley point nuclear power station is just up the road from me

[Briggs]

In all honesty if the SHTF right now this instant so severely that it warranted leaving my home, Id have no idea where to go... its all well and good having a BOV (mines a pretty well prepared landrover that Im slowly kitting out as an overland expedition vehicle, one of my dream's is to tour the world with it living out of my Landy) but what would you do with it?

Ive got nowhere to go, the main roads would be clogged (whoever designed the road system for this town did a shockingly poor job, I reckon they gave a bit of paper and some crayons to a toddler to design it). Ive got family on the coast down in Cornwall, who live in a fairly remote tiny village I suppose I could head there, but its a near 200 mile trip and the roads would most likely be impassible, unless I could use greenlanes the whole way, I imagine even then small B roads would get clogged as well, whilst motorways and A roads would become carparks.

I should probably put some more thought into this.... especially as Hinkley point nuclear power station is just up the road from me

Hinckley Point is a bit of a worry for me as well. If there was an event and I had to move quick I'd be compromised as well. With the prevailing wind being from the SW, I'd be looking to head eastward but can you imagine what the A38, A39 and the M5/A358 will be like? Best avoid that area, I think!

The point you've made is valid though, even with a BOV, where do you head for and more importantly, how do you avoid gridlocked junctions and ultimately being funneled into a Government-run refugee camp?

[mallie99]

I had an idea a little bit back about buying (or renting) some industrial space somewhere. I had the idea because I know absolutely nothing about car engines and such, but would love to get an old car and tinker - teach myself how to take it apart, fix it up and put it back together again. I had the thought that if I got an industrial unit somewhere I could use as a garage, spend some time there as a hobby-house.

So, if I got a 4-be I could prep it and build up some supplies there. Then, also, if the SHTF I would then need to get there to move on. If I was unable to, but it helps a family member or friend then I could let them know of its existence and they can use it to help their family survive.

So, in your scenarios, such a setup would mean you have an initial place to travel to. As an industrial unit, it would likely have good access to road/rail networks which you should be able to use to good advantage. So... If you ruin your family bus getting to your tank in a cupboard, no loss

Nice thinking, short on any form of reality though...

[Tiercel]

Even if the roads werent actually clogged, theres possbily a good chance that during a national or even major local incident motorways and other main arterial roads would be shut to the public anyway, limited for emergency service and/or government use only.

If it were just me on my own, my ideal BOV would possibly be a motorbike with good offroad capabilities, that way you can still thunder through the woods, along cyclepaths, bridleways and greenlanes etc without having to use roads, and if it gets stuck you can just hop off and push it unlike a car/4x4. Would be good for getting through traffic blocked roads too. Downside is youre significantly more limited to what you can take, and limited to one passenger at the very most

[mallie99]

my ideal BOV would possibly be a motorbike with good offroad capabilities, t

Good call!

[junmist]

Can you afford to run two cars one that might just sit on your drive for most of the year. If you can only afford one then you also have to think of running cost as well, How big are your dogs and your kids as this will determine what space you need. I had a Toyota town ace great prepping car but you where restricted on where to get insurance as all town ace's are imported making insurance expensive as it was my second car it went I still miss it.
Also as it has been said before do you have a place to go or are you going to be part of the problem. Getting out of Dodge is fine but WHERE are you going, you and a million other people are all going to be leaving the city and camping out in the woods and fields. Those same woods and fields are going to belong to someone and don't forget the community's that don't want townies coming and taking what they conceder theirs. Its great that you are thinking about bugging out but it is a lot more complicated than just packing up and leaving.

[beer999]

Have you even considered the possibility of staying at home? Where are you going to go?

How likely is worldwide financial collapse and what would be the impact to you and your family? Like you said, I think you have a lot of thinking to do.


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the Likely hood of complete financial collapse is very likely
the banks around the world are printing money to try and get on top of the MASSIVE DEBT around the world
this is called "funny money" and basically the more they print the lower the value of it and therefore inflation goes up to counter it

a few months ago america nearly had to close their government due to having no money
if this actually happens it would De-stabilise the entire worlds economy
and history show this has happened to other civilisations
so from my point of view is the most realistic end of life as we know it situation

(my suggestion is for you to look into this yourself i have found enough to think this is a real possiblity in the next 5-10 years)

so how it effects me is
the value of all money everywhere is constantly decreasing in value (fact)

so imagine you wake up tomorrow and inflation or interest rates have skyrocketed
and you go to buy a loaf of bread at £300 but you wage is still the same
do you continue to work?
will everyone else?

so now people are hungry and resort to raiding the shops
(your local Tesco or Asda has a 2 day suply of stock for normal shopping patterns) again fact
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and once all this has been consumed what come next?
Usually people will do anything to get food (i know i would physically assault some to feed my baby daughter) (sorry its the truth)
now i live in a very densly populated low demigraphic part of our city
my only realistic option to protect my family is to get out of the city

There have been 3 economic revolution Agricultural, Industrial and transport. All resulted in disinflation when ever there was a recession (the real definition of a depression) we are now in the computer revolution inflation only reached 5% despite the dramatic increase the in the money supply (the reason we did not have disinflation). The UK's inflation rate, as measured by the Consumer Prices Index, fell to 2% in December, down from 2.1% the month before. CPI is basically RPI - X where X = housing costs. The chance of a dramatic increase in inflation is close to nil.

There are many things to prepare for that is not one of them

[beer999]

I doubt very much that the roads will be congested at first although that would depend on the emergency. It would be, in my opinion about a week. Although the government may block people leaving before this on the roads out of cities. Where ever they have the resources to do so AND keep law order in towns is another matter. I suspect the people who leave quickly will be preppers and those with second homes.

[beer999]

As I already live in the country that will not include me. I am prepped without prepping! I lead a frugal life style always looking for for free wild so a ittle bit of knowledge. A wood burner and LPG tank not bottles. Bottled LPG and oil can be stolen. Just using the LPG for cooking could last as much as 10years maybe 20years. As long as I keep it 60% full. Now I have to get over my bone idolness and terrace my back garden (steep hill) a greenhouse at the top would I think make me self sufficient. With snares for rabbits and deer and air rifle for pigeons I would hope to be self sufficient. Of course that is all dependent on being able to defend what I have. Always worry about the wood burner giving of smoke letting people know the house is occupied?

[beer999]

No one appears to Have spotted the obvious prep for an emergency. That is an ordnance survey maps. A they must be laminated B go for 1:50,000. They what I call a cycling map. It is 4 times the info of a 1:25,000 map what I call a walking map. Basically the difference is that the 1:25,000 shows field boundaries.