My BOB List comments welcome

[Sirmattyb]

Hi all,

New member here wanted see what you all thought of my primary BOB and contents would welcome any suggestions. This is based on short term for two people so If you see 2 x of the same thing that is based on the assumption I have my bug out mate with me. I have divided this into a few sections.

Tools, Security, Torch's

1x Cold Steel OSS
1 x Cold Steel Recon Scout
2 x Cold Steel Peacemaker 2s
1 x Leatherman
1 x Cold Steel Recon 1
1 x Cold Steel Panga Machetes (depending on scenario and location and other variables)
1x Cold Steel Gurka Knife this is big almost machete size (depending on scenario and location and other variables)
2 x small cree torch (run on either AA or 14500 batts)
1 x 3d cell led maglight
1 x cree head torch (runs on either 18650 or 2 x camera batts)
1 x MK4 Osprey Body Armour (once again depends on the scenario can be taken or left depending on variables)
1 x Survival Inc Lightweight 111a body amour with insert-able level 4 plates (brought for my girlfriend to wear and once again depends on the scenario can be taken or left depending on variables)
100 x High intensity 5 Min Cyalume sticks (can be left or taken in desired quantity)
2 x Lazer Brite long life tactical torch glowstick things last 450 hours if you havent seen them have a look at the link they are awesome http://www.lazerbrite.com/
3 x Lighters

Survival & Food Prep
Oasis Water Purification Tablets
Hexamine type Stove with extra fuel tablets
Mess Tins x 2
Spork x 2
Seven Oceans Survival Biscuits x 2 Packs (each pack lasts one person 72 hrs Supposedly)
2 x UK MREs (have more can add to in volume dependant on different scenarios)
1 x Life Straw
4 x 4 hr tea lights
Pack of playing cards
2 x Mountain Whistles
Fire Steel
Waterproof Matches
Condoms
Small Fishing Kit
Snares
Para Cord 550 Small roll
sewing kit
2 x gold sovereigns
2 x half gold sovereigns
hand Sanitizer
Anti Bacterial wipes
Toilet Paper
2 x small roll up Gortex bivi bags
Tinder
6 Protein / Energy bars
Tea Bags, Sugar, Salt, pepper small quantity of powdered milk
Small tabasco bottle
2 x litre metal water bottles
5 x resealable bags

Communications, Tech and Navigation

1 x Solar & Wind up Radio (also has charger for mobiles etc built in)
1 x Wind up Torch (is kept in survival section separate from other torch's emergency only)
2 long range way UHF Ham radios (i have five so can vary quantity if there are others in party)
Small pair of Binoculars
Old Fashioned Compass & Maps of Area that I am in and going to
1 x Ipad loaded with films, books (survival books not just fiction) and Independent OS Mapping software which works offline.
1 x Google Nexus 7 loaded with books and Ordnance Survey software
1 x Power Gorilla Battery & Solar Charger
1 x Cheap Generic 10000mah battery & Solar charger

The Luxury Kit (to me these are luxury items and not needed but are really nice to have)

Two Person Tent (I use the wild country one small compact lightweight)
2 x Snugpack Extreme Sleeping bags these beauties go down to about -20 and are fairly light as well
Multi Fuel Stove assorted camping gear
Small Hatchet

I am sure Ive missed quite a bit off. My first aid supplies I have listed in another thread viewtopic.php?f=19&t=9699 and as I mentioned the trauma kit and this kit are designed to be spread over a carry load of two people and possibly a bug out vehicle and then of course I have a different load for land rover etc but the above is what I and my girlfriend can happily carry with a few additions etc easily and for a period of time spread out over both of us. Depending on the situation I would also possibly carry a lightweight 12ftlbs .22 air gun and or a 150lb draw weight crossbow but weight starts to get prohibitive I have found when you start adding big extras.

I think the beauty of my kit is that I have designed it to carry in a modular way so can cut weight from the kit very easily without taking too much effectiveness and to vary for different scenarios I also have 2 NBC kits with GSR respirators but would not carry them in certain scenarios.

I would welcome any constructive comments. I sometimes get carried away with kit or so my girlfriend tells me when she strapps the bag I have packed her on her back!! Do we really need all of this is a common comment..... haha Cheers for reading.

[southernhunter]

Very impressive, but looks to be quite short term, what are your provision plans for a longer term bug out?

[ForgeCorvus]

What bag(s) are you using?

For me, I'd class tent and sleeping bags as essentials, everything listed in the Comm/Tech/Navi section after Map and Compass as luxury and body armour as a WTF?
Got any cash besides the gold?

But I am not you, my preps are therefore not your preps.

I'd try to standardise on one battery type if possible
Maybe add some additional clothing (clean underwear is a huge boost, and there is a chance that either you or she might not be dressed suitably)
Are seven knives needed, even for two people?

[Plymtom]

Yeah does sound a bit knife heavy, and heavy, heavy but if your location is stocked and you can make it with the other contents fair enough, remember however you pack it a crossbow especially with all that other stuff your loaded with is like a boat anchor and will get caught up on anything and everything, collapsed or just not yet assembled could be another matter, a compound bow has similar issues neither are hardy, ( I wonder how many the guy on walking dead has busted making the shows) I'd go with an air rifle if I were you, and though you may count them as normal clothing- gloves they wont make you superman as they say, but the rest of your kit indicates expecting hard hand work for someone who may not be used to it.

[poppypiesdad]

What they said

Ditch all the funny battery torches , and stick with a couple of "usual " sizes like AA and AAA, got rid of my 123A and 18650 or what ever they are sizes , would be easier replenish than trying to hunt down odd sizes .

Gurkha knife is called a kukri .

Small bottles of Tabasco are included in UK rat packs so is it necessary.

J

[Sirmattyb]

Very impressive, but looks to be quite short term, what are your provision plans for a longer term bug out?

Hey ya it is short term it's designed to get me to one of three different locations the one that's the farthest away is about two fifty miles from where I live, so I have three stashs along the way containing different bits and pieces based on the assumption that for whatever reason I am not going to be able to drive there. The stash areas have supplies of various food stocks and some heavy in place items. Could potentially live at each waypoint stash for a week at a time comfortably.

Cheers,
Matt

[Sirmattyb]

What bag(s) are you using?

For me, I'd class tent and sleeping bags as essentials, everything listed in the Comm/Tech/Navi section after Map and Compass as luxury and body armour as a WTF?
Got any cash besides the gold?

But I am not you, my preps are therefore not your preps.

I'd try to standardise on one battery type if possible
Maybe add some additional clothing (clean underware is a huge boost, and there is a chance that either you or she might not be dressed suitably)
Are seven knives needed, even for two people?

I have sleeping bags at my end point location along with long term shelter arrangements and some general longer term survival plans.

For bags I am using a Tasmanian first responder and a molle back pack think it's a miltech nothing fancy but about 60-70 litres and the Tasmanian is about maybe eighty litres.as the he comms and navigation items the iPads etc I class as a must have as they hold vast amounts of knowledge and also give me a way of entertaining myself and picking my spirits up when they are low. I always carry cash and cards it I am basing bugging out on the assumption that cash isn't worth anything anymore if it is then I'm sorted as I have ample but if not I got a small bit of gold combined with other stuff (spare medical supplies, weapons etc) that I can trade with. Body armour makes me feel safe ha as I mentioned it would depend on the situation but I'm all about survivability and if law and order have broken down I expect to have to have a fight at some point so this give me an element of my vital organs being protected against what I think would be the most common threat in the uk someone trying to stab me or someone blasting me with a shotgun.

I prefer a different mix of battery types most of my torches will work on aa batteries as we'll but the 18500 ones will work on camera batteries and I everyone uses aa batteries so good luck trying to get those in the shop where as I think there will be camera batteries left on the shelf. I also have solar power chargers and other power sources so am happy I can keep myself well lit until I reach my hide hole in the area that I have chosen. As for the knife scenario I know maybe over kill but I do like knives they are a massive benefit to any scenario and would also be a tradable commodity.

As for clothing I class this I'm personal kit which each person would take anyway along with my smokes, and my hip flask etc I would as part set of tactical clothes.

Cheers,
Matt

[QUAID]

There are many variables in someones bugging out methods.
What are you actually bugging out to?
Sounds like your gonna be in 'Refugee Mode'.

If you are bugging out on foot you should be aiming at at least 3 days self sufficiency (the longer the heavier your bergan gets).
Your gear sounds a bit too heavy if you are on foot. You could always place some caches on the way to your bug out location which would cut down on weight.


Too many knives - Re- assess.
Ditch the Cyalumes. How much space does this take up?
Body armour? too heavy, go tactical and weigh up the risks of threat levels.
Playing cards? Your bugging out... your mind will be racing and evaluating.. you will not be in the frame of minde for a quick game of poker.
Ditch the IPAD... keep your files on memory stick.
Tent is luxury item... again heavy. Go for a Basha.

If you are bugging out go light, remember you want to conserve energy and get to your location (if you have one) as quick as possible.


Is the rest of your party as fit as you are???
If in doubt go for a trial run, this will be the best way of evaluating your gear and deciding what you need and never use.
There's more but hope this helps.

[Sirmattyb]

Sorry quail I replied to you but my posts have got out of sync.

Cheers,
Matt

[Trojanhorse]

Any pics of the this set up?