Hi,
I know this subject has been beaten to death but....
My 2 year old daughter has been ill over the last few days. The doctors gave the normal 'think its an infection' line (aka i dont know whats wrong) and gave her antibiotics. As she climbed into our bed last night and fell asleep with a temp of 39.5 i started thinking. What could I do for her if tshtf and there were no antibiotics left.
I have already bought myself a pharmacy guide to herbal remedies. but it relies on you knowing what each herb etc looks like.
I do not intend on stocking up fish antibiotics, as I have read on some websites. Can anyone recommend a book that has a picture for each ingredient in the herbal remedies? Or similar?
As a side note, the first stop when the world goes tits up is my local 3 chemists! with the weather as it is I reckon hayfever tablets are worth their weight in gold!
Thanks
Andy
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Re: antibiotics
Sadley the future looks bleak on that score and overuse is making it harder to treat infections already. I was on a course of antibiotics a few months ago and it just wasn't working, dose doubled and 3 weeks later it finally worked. 2000mg a DAY is not good!
The future could see people dying from a tooth abscess like pre antibiotics time. That is one of the biggest threats to mankind and its almost here.
You need to be very careful with herbal treatments as they can be incredibly dangerous and you will need to make sure dosage is correct for the youngster's age etc, what's fine for an adult might not be for a child/baby.
The future could see people dying from a tooth abscess like pre antibiotics time. That is one of the biggest threats to mankind and its almost here.
You need to be very careful with herbal treatments as they can be incredibly dangerous and you will need to make sure dosage is correct for the youngster's age etc, what's fine for an adult might not be for a child/baby.
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lincsprepper
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Re: antibiotics
Honey has a lot of antibacterial effects. I don't know if it would help with anything serious but it cant hurt to try a couple of spoonfuls a day.
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The Launert guide to edible & medicinal plants is one of the best. Don't pay stupid money - if you can't find it for under a tenner, let me know and I'll see if I can dig out the link I used when I lost my copy.
Decaff is right; what is good for an adult won't be for a child - far too strong. So you need to do some research on that. For example, when using most essential oils (stock up on some of those too!), for an adult you'd use 1 drop:1ml of carrier, be it aloe or oil or whatever. For a child under five, about a third of that. Many oils are antibacterial and antifungal too.
For treating infections, echinacea is good. If you can't get that, try making elderberry gummies. You can google a receipe, or prod me to post the one I've found when I get back from the madhouse called work. Both of those work by boosting your immune system to fight off what you have, so will work with bacterial AND viral infections.
Don't just treat the symptoms. Whilst it's important to treat a temperature and reduce it - aspirin (willow bark), tepid baths, fan in room if possible - it's also important to treat the cause of the symptoms.
Decaff is right; what is good for an adult won't be for a child - far too strong. So you need to do some research on that. For example, when using most essential oils (stock up on some of those too!), for an adult you'd use 1 drop:1ml of carrier, be it aloe or oil or whatever. For a child under five, about a third of that. Many oils are antibacterial and antifungal too.
For treating infections, echinacea is good. If you can't get that, try making elderberry gummies. You can google a receipe, or prod me to post the one I've found when I get back from the madhouse called work. Both of those work by boosting your immune system to fight off what you have, so will work with bacterial AND viral infections.
Don't just treat the symptoms. Whilst it's important to treat a temperature and reduce it - aspirin (willow bark), tepid baths, fan in room if possible - it's also important to treat the cause of the symptoms.
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Darktide
Re: antibiotics
Dont underestimate fresh food rich with vitamins, arm the body to rid itself of the infection.
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I have an on-going problem with one of my teeth (which are in remarkably good shape, otherwise, for my age - long may it last). This was due to a botched replacement filling from when I chipped the tooth as a child, which led to me having to have root canal treatment, and the ineptitude of a succession of dentists (I have been a dental victim for most of my life, it would seem, since I found out that my childhood dentist was struck off for malpractice and I have had further problems with other dentists since). I have an infection in the root/bone of one tooth, which I thought had been successfully treated years ago. Because of some botched root canal, my current dentist had to do a small operation to scrape out the bone and fill it with bone substitute (this was done privately and was experimental - it doesn't seem to have worked, I've only just realised since developing a little bubble in my gum (a bit like a mouth ulcer) which is where the infection is breaking through - I've only recently heard that another dentist is being investigated for performing similar operations). Because it doesn't really hurt, I wasn't aware of it before. I am now on my second lot of antibiotics and I can still see no change, but the likelihood is I'll need an implant to sort it out for good. I'm wondering if I should be expected to pay for that too (I'm a wee bit mad, can you tell 
?) Getting to the point, I am assured that, even with the antibiotics, the problem isn't solved. Antibiotics can't do everything and abscesses can be fatal. Unfortunately, and without giving too much information away, my dentist (who is normally very good) is not currently available, the locum doesn't want to get involved (not stated, but I can just tell) and pre-SHTF times, I am currently "considering my position".
?) Getting to the point, I am assured that, even with the antibiotics, the problem isn't solved. Antibiotics can't do everything and abscesses can be fatal. Unfortunately, and without giving too much information away, my dentist (who is normally very good) is not currently available, the locum doesn't want to get involved (not stated, but I can just tell) and pre-SHTF times, I am currently "considering my position".Re: antibiotics
Thanks for the book idea redskies, will have a hunt for it.
I know the overuse of antibiotics can be the killer move for everyone as they become less and less effective, so want to improve my knowledge on all aspects of herbal and traditional remedies.
Dont want to survive whatever could lie ahead only to be finished off by a cut finger!!
Thanks
I know the overuse of antibiotics can be the killer move for everyone as they become less and less effective, so want to improve my knowledge on all aspects of herbal and traditional remedies.
Dont want to survive whatever could lie ahead only to be finished off by a cut finger!!
Thanks
Area 4
Re: antibiotics
The book is great. I like it particularly as it gives active ingredient, so it's possible to use that as a cross reference for substitutes if you can't get the plant you're after.
Soap and water. And proper handwashing. If you don't know what that is, put it in a search engine and find a video - they're out there!
Stay away from things like Dettol for everyday use; you need some exposure to bacteria to build a healthy immune system.
If you cut yourself, then unless it's arterial, let it bleed for a minute or so - this helps to cleanse it and remove any 'bits'. Then either put it under the cold tap or, for more enthusiastic cuts, apply light pressure and elevate it above your heart.
Keep it covered until it granulates - begins to scab over - and then let the fresh air at it as much as possible. Don't pick!
If there's redness, more than expected swelling, a 'smell' and pus, then the wound will need to be cleaned and treated topically to help control infection. Whether you do this or a medical professional does depends on the wound. Judgement call for you, not me. I've successfully treated an infected dog bite with garlic, salt and the cream I make myself, so I know it can be done - to a point.
If there are red streaks radiating from the wound, then get yourself to the nearest medical facility ASAP - do not, ever, mess with blood poisoning.
A good chunk of routine infection control is good hygiene. Balanced with exposure to common, everyday bacteria to build your immune system.
I really have to find time to write those guides out properly!
Soap and water. And proper handwashing. If you don't know what that is, put it in a search engine and find a video - they're out there!
Stay away from things like Dettol for everyday use; you need some exposure to bacteria to build a healthy immune system.
If you cut yourself, then unless it's arterial, let it bleed for a minute or so - this helps to cleanse it and remove any 'bits'. Then either put it under the cold tap or, for more enthusiastic cuts, apply light pressure and elevate it above your heart.
Keep it covered until it granulates - begins to scab over - and then let the fresh air at it as much as possible. Don't pick!
If there's redness, more than expected swelling, a 'smell' and pus, then the wound will need to be cleaned and treated topically to help control infection. Whether you do this or a medical professional does depends on the wound. Judgement call for you, not me. I've successfully treated an infected dog bite with garlic, salt and the cream I make myself, so I know it can be done - to a point.
If there are red streaks radiating from the wound, then get yourself to the nearest medical facility ASAP - do not, ever, mess with blood poisoning.
A good chunk of routine infection control is good hygiene. Balanced with exposure to common, everyday bacteria to build your immune system.
I really have to find time to write those guides out properly!