Perpping Mentality

[sfcfinchrs]

Hi All,

I have been posting on some other prepper forums. Mainly to advertise the land back in the states.

I have run across some interesting conversations. Being a Yank in the UK. There are constant questions about defense and firearms.

Look my last ten years in the Army was with the U.S. Army Marksmanship Unit.

So you would think I would be stressing BIG TIME about not having firearms.

Nothing could be further from the truth. You see firearms are in reality perishable items. It breaks you need a gunsmith with a machine shop. Ammo - use it and eventually it is no more.

Yet if you look at some very practical tools you should have in your preps anyway, you will find unlimited durability. For example the humble machete.

Now let take this whole issue of defense and lay it bear.

You and the small amount of people that may be with you are not going to fight a war. If you have your wits about you. You and your's will hunker down somewhere and hide. You have your preps to allow you to keep going without having to draw attention by showing yourself.

Let the storm pass over. In the UK the time to die-off in SHTF for the unprepared population is a great deal quicker than other places in the world.

Hell half of the people that can't go to Marks and Sparks for their ready meals will be eating their pets within a week.....

So prep for weathering the initial storm and then you and yours will be golden.

Cheers all.

[lonewolf]

You and the small amount of people that may be with you are not going to fight a war. If you have your wits about you. You and your's will hunker down somewhere and hide. You have your preps to allow you to keep going without having to draw attention by showing yourself.

Let the storm pass over. In the UK the time to die-off in SHTF for the unprepared population is a great deal quicker than other places in the world.

Hell half of the people that can't go to Marks and Sparks for their ready meals will be eating their pets within a week.....

So prep for weathering the initial storm and then you and yours will be golden.

Cheers all.

I have been saying this for years now, unlike the USA i think the die off will be very short lived, maybe as little as 3-6 months depending on the event or events of course.

[Arzosah]

... Look my last ten years in the Army was with the U.S. Army Marksmanship Unit.

So you would think I would be stressing BIG TIME about not having firearms.

Nothing could be further from the truth. You see firearms are in reality perishable items. It breaks you need a gunsmith with a machine shop. Ammo - use it and eventually it is no more. ...

Yes, I'd definitely have thought that about any cause of stress for you! Very interesting!

So, thinking about the die-off time in the UK, you think it will be shorter here for unprepared people than elsewhere for unprepared people? Um, can you spell out why, sfcfinchrs? That sounds like something we need to think about ...

[lonewolf]

unprepared British people are further from "the soil" than say Americans who have a shorter history and are closer to their pioneering roots. Americans will drive hundreds of miles to go to some event where British people always have a ready excuse why they cant attend.

[Plymtom]

I think it's all about sustainability SHTF or not the large population areas without fuel would soon be finding our island a good bit bigger than it is with transport, it makes sense that we in the UK would be quicker screwed than places with more space, I won't make the same mistake I have in the past when talking about my fellow city dwellers, some of us do have strong connections with the countryside, it is probably more to do with modern living than the city itself, but the unprepared as we are calling them, expect help, too many these days hold their hands out instead of rolling their sleeves up and mucking in, all depends just how soon people realize they are in the poo and how they react, we are able ( I wont say have the luxury because it isn't) to bunker down for long enough to observe perhaps, I don't expect to fare much better than them TBH but I'll try to.

[Decaff]

I think it's all about sustainability SHTF or not the large population areas without fuel would soon be finding our island a good bit bigger than it is with transport, it makes sense that we in the UK would be quicker screwed than places with more space, I won't make the same mistake I have in the past when talking about my fellow city dwellers, some of us do have strong connections with the countryside, it is probably more to do with modern living than the city itself, but the unprepared as we are calling them, expect help, too many these days hold their hands out instead of rolling their sleeves up and mucking in, all depends just how soon people realize they are in the poo and how they react, we are able ( I wont say have the luxury because it isn't) to bunker down for long enough to observe perhaps, I don't expect to fare much better than them TBH but I'll try to.

I agree! Sustainability will be the only way forward in the new world. Everyone will have to roll up sleeves and dig, chop, plow, grow, harvest and help in some way or they will soon find there are no handouts for workshy lazy citizens. Money will have no value so no buying an easy life either.

[jansman]

unprepared British people are further from "the soil" than say Americans who have a shorter history and are closer to their pioneering roots. Americans will drive hundreds of miles to go to some event where British people always have a ready excuse why they cant attend.

I will agree that 'closeness' to agriculture is true. Though I live (and work) in an agricultural community.
Please tell us what driving hundreds of miles(we do not have that many hundreds of miles, as an island) to an event -whatever that may be?- has to do with prepping mentality?

[iSkynet]

There are constant questions about defense and firearms.

There in no problem to get firearm or shotgun in UK.
The question is why would you need it for.
If you'll have to shoot someone then your prepping gone terribly wrong.
If you'll need it to hunt then you won't need much ammo. How long will 2k .22 last if you use 10 a day? I think enough to get you through hardest time until things will be more settled.

But if ammo or license is an issue get a crossbow.

[Devonian]

In the UK the time to die-off in SHTF for the unprepared population is a great deal quicker than other places in the world.

I totally agree with this as well.

You just need to consider that with a population of 60+ Million on a small rock in the North Sea makes us one of the most densely populated nations in the world.

Add to that our reliance on imported food and fuels and it soon becomes clear that in a SHTF situation there is no way that there will ever be enough food to sustain the population. Plus with no fuel and power, the volume of home grown food is going fall away dramatically as farmers will no longer have the means to be able to farm on an industrial scale - they will probably struggle to generate enough food for themselves and the immediate community. The populations with the towns and cities will literally die of starvation within a matter of weeks/months.

[Devonian]

Please tell us what driving hundreds of miles(we do not have that many hundreds of miles, as an island) to an event -whatever that may be?- has to do with prepping mentality?

I think LW was trying to illustrate the differences in attitudes between the UK and the US.

Now I know this is a generalisation, but the US has more of a "can do" attitude, whereas (very) large sections of the UK Community have more of a "I want; I deserve; Give Me...." attitude.