I know I'm pretty new to prepping and not sure if it is a taboo subject, but does anyone have a plan for NOT surviving?
After reading more and more book about social breakdown like "One Second After" I do find myself asking the question. "What if things get so bad and don't want to survive?".
If you have a choice of you and you family slowly starving to death or being raped and torchered by thugs.... should we have a plan to end our lives quick and painless?
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Preppering NOT to survive?
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Nope, the thought never crossed my mind.
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No living creature desires death and so your plan should always be to survive. Every other option or path would need to be explored first and then and only then should ending it be considered. It would need to be the prospect of a slow lingering death with absolutely no chance of any saving ourselves to think about this.
My grandfather did just that, having a terminal illness and being in some considerable pain and discomfort. He sawed the barrel off his shotgun and took his own life , quick although not so nice for those he left behind.
My grandfather did just that, having a terminal illness and being in some considerable pain and discomfort. He sawed the barrel off his shotgun and took his own life , quick although not so nice for those he left behind.
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Very sorry to hear that, grenfell. As you say, not pleasant for those left behind. Today, maybe someone in that situation would go to Switzerland ...
As for prepping *not* to survive, the only situation for that is what grenfell said. In fiction, think of the young blind girl in The Day Of The Triffids - 10 days after the "comets", no help has arrived in London, and people around her are also dying of a painful disease. When she comes down with it, she asks for the protagonist to fetch her some pills so it will happen fast.
As for prepping *not* to survive, the only situation for that is what grenfell said. In fiction, think of the young blind girl in The Day Of The Triffids - 10 days after the "comets", no help has arrived in London, and people around her are also dying of a painful disease. When she comes down with it, she asks for the protagonist to fetch her some pills so it will happen fast.
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Yep, we have thought of it and considered options (normally when watching zombie/vampire films! 
). But only EVER as a last resort, and even then, the desire to survive (we anticipate) will override everything.
Do not underestimate your will to survive, or indeed the lengths you will go to to ensure your survival. It's not pleasant to think that when our backs are to the wall, as an animal we will do whatever it takes, even if on an intellectual level we find such behaviour abhorrent today.
Should TS ever HTF you will find reserves and a core of steel inside you that you did not know existed. You will assess the threat and mind and body as one you will (honestly, trust me on this) do whatever it takes.
It's not a subject to dwell on I think. Prepare for loss of income, loss of utilities etc and just believe in yourself. You're capable of more than you realise.
). But only EVER as a last resort, and even then, the desire to survive (we anticipate) will override everything. Do not underestimate your will to survive, or indeed the lengths you will go to to ensure your survival. It's not pleasant to think that when our backs are to the wall, as an animal we will do whatever it takes, even if on an intellectual level we find such behaviour abhorrent today.
Should TS ever HTF you will find reserves and a core of steel inside you that you did not know existed. You will assess the threat and mind and body as one you will (honestly, trust me on this) do whatever it takes.
It's not a subject to dwell on I think. Prepare for loss of income, loss of utilities etc and just believe in yourself. You're capable of more than you realise.
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Remember they are just stories, I do not know what will happen if TSHTF, I plan to survive along with my Other half, She will not like it as we will not be living in a 4/5 star hotel but a small community of like minded people.
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"Remember Politicians are like babies diapers they both need changing often for the very same reason" - Mark Twain
If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.
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Strictly speaking I'm prepping for more personal events, like loss of home or income or local problems with transport, weather etc. That said I do have one eye on the more global picture and for that I am prepping not so much for myself as my family as I am unsure how long I would survive without a supply of medication.
To this end I have realised that there would come a time when I may become more of a burden than a help and hope that should this arise I would be able to assess the situation logically and unemotionally, but then that's the big question, what would we do in that sort of situation. Suicide is not something that I can imagine me doing, but until we are actually there who knows?
To answer the question, no I'm not prepping to kill myself, but it is at the back of my mind, I'm not ready to take it to the fore yet, time enough when s*** happens.
To this end I have realised that there would come a time when I may become more of a burden than a help and hope that should this arise I would be able to assess the situation logically and unemotionally, but then that's the big question, what would we do in that sort of situation. Suicide is not something that I can imagine me doing, but until we are actually there who knows?
To answer the question, no I'm not prepping to kill myself, but it is at the back of my mind, I'm not ready to take it to the fore yet, time enough when s*** happens.
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I thought the idea of prepping is for you and your family to survive any disaster that may strike at anytime, but its like anything in this world is you assess the situation as it arises, if in the worst case scenario that there is no hope for you and your family to survive then only you can make that final decision to end it all? I personally would never give up and would just keep on pushing to the end as sometimes things can change for the good.
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'Arzosah wrote:Very sorry to hear that, grenfell. As you say, not pleasant for those left behind. Today, maybe someone in that situation would go to Switzerland ...
Thanks for that Arzosah . It happened quite some time ago and I was only seven or eight at the time. I had spent my early years living on his farm although I can't remember that part but at the time we were living only about half a mile away and would visit daily. I would go in to see him with my father but for some reason dad left me at home that day which saved me from a pretty gory sight. To be honest suicide isn't something a seven year old can fully understand in my opinion , I just knew that one day I had a grandad and a farm to play on and the next it was taken away from me.
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Grenfell, I'm very sorry to hear that too... suicide is something even us adults have trouble getting our heads around.Stasher wrote: Do not underestimate your will to survive, or indeed the lengths you will go to to ensure your survival. It's not pleasant to think that when our backs are to the wall, as an animal we will do whatever it takes, even if on an intellectual level we find such behaviour abhorrent today.
Should TS ever HTF you will find reserves and a core of steel inside you that you did not know existed. You will assess the threat and mind and body as one you will (honestly, trust me on this) do whatever it takes.
Stasher it's your quotes that emphasizes my concern, in particular "the lengths you will go to to ensure your survival".... I agree we will do whatever it takes, but then that applies to the 64.1 million people living in the UK. The same 64.1 million people who rely on food from the supermarkets that are hugely stocked on demand from foreign import. If an event disrupts the flow of food within a week or two we have potentially have a lawless society where our animal instinct takes over. The strongest WILL survive and do as they please!
I'm not saying anyone should give up on survival but shouldn't we have a back up plan if survival is not possible?