DeWalt Concealer goggles

[metatron]

lol, they look cool, but I'll stick to my yellow tint polycarbonate glasses.

[featherstick]

I shooting on a small clay pigeon range where clay pieces and small shot can fall upon you at the worst times you may end up with broken skin usually it just stings.

Jeez, what clays are you shooting? Why are you anywhere near where the shot is falling? Why are you not wearing a helmet?

I don't know about shot but I remember occasionally getting spattered with broken clay as a kid, even behind the shooter. Especially on a big day when there might be three or four shooting positions.

[Holomon]

Usually with a 12 gauge (browning 525 sporter one 30inch barrel using whatever carts are cheapest usually fiochhi top one) I went 250 shots without a miss a personal records before that I would miss every round or so 25-75 straight hits with three or four misses in the next round (put it down to perfection nerves).

One day I just could not miss (the day after I handed in my notice). Someone recommended I tried a .410 (they gave me their old break barrel single shot) which reduced my hits to about 10-15 hits per round since then I've only used a .410 and recently hit 25 in a row without even realising it ( I was with my missus who used my 12g and managed to hit none ).

I usually use a 12G with an extra full choke it's not all that much easier to dust a clay than it is to at least chip one with a .410. I'd be very unhappy if I chipped a DTL target with my 12G. Once you get over the psychology of OMG this is a peeshooter you realise the .410 is a formidable piece of gear very capable of jobs we'd usualy leap to the 12G to achieve.

Shame .410 ammo costs about as much as 12G and I don't have any reloading gear for .410 my Lee LoadAll II only works on 20-12G.

I'd always assumed that because a .410 has such a small load and about 60-70% of the muzzle velocity of a 12g that it'd make DTL nigh on impossible, because the clays would out distance it so quickly and the pattern would be next to useless. Mind you I've never shot with anything smaller than a 12 gauge, even as a kid because that's all I've ever had!

[birds&bees]

Mind you I've never shot with anything smaller than a 12 gauge, even as a kid because that's all I've ever had!

I reckon you're better off giving a child a 12g with very low recoil loads than a .410.

I'm sure sometimes I hit the clay without breaking it using the .410 but it'd be impossible to tell without recovering them.