Newbie from Liverpool

[pseudonym]

Hello and welcome to the Forum

[Hamradioop]

hello and welcome to the forum.

[tigs]

Welcome to the forum

[Arzosah]

Welcome! Expatriate Scouser here, I'm down south

It's good that you're stocking up, but skills are crucial too.

As to bugging out - where to? The whole of the north west is very nearly as densely populated as the south east, and assuming your property isn't burned down, you'd be much safer where you are, surely? For any kind of foreseeable situation, bugging in is nearly always better, though sticking with family is probably better/safer.

Do you have a good pushbike, that would get you mobile quickly, if you've no personal transport?

Good to hear you mention the thing about lots of scenarios - the most probable shtf moment most of us will face is a violent burglary or a house fire.

We want pix of the pup when you get him please

[fapplan]

Hi and welcome to the forum. I don't know about your individual circumstances but if you're looking for cheap personal transportation that's faster than a pushbike, have you considered a scooter or moped? I'm sure you'll already know that you don't need much to get on the road as a learner, just a CBT and insurance then you've got a relatively fast BOV that is virtually immune to traffic jams.

[Kellankelloggs]

Ah I used to live down south, in Cornwall... moved for work.

At the minute bugging-out would be to just past Chester, around Mold way. In future though I'll build up to a less densely-populated area, maybe Scotland. As I say though, bugging out is only an option if there's plenty of warning and I'd be much better off in the countryside. If I'm stuck in the middle of it all then I'll stay at home, it's safer =]

No pushbike, and I think I'd have trouble riding it these days, but I was looking at buying a tourer motorbike with room for two, along with storage boxes for some preps. The main advantages being the ability to weave through cars in a traffic jam, and the MPG.

Had to get the puppy yesterday because they were going fast... she's eight weeks, so I've got a wait before I train her =]

[simbageoleo]

hi and welcome to the forum i myself have a 100 cc moped nippy little things and it has a givvy box on the back to store all my BOB stuff plus underseat storage to and i can get a backpack to store any goodies i find on the way so i would suggest getting something cheap and simple to use as transport i am keeping my l plates on it as it stand its about 4 quid to fill up from empty it does like 100 miles to the gallon i guess its like 1-2 gallion tank plus with all the safty gear on helmet leathers and stuff you will be protected from rioters if it comes to it to

[Arzosah]

A tourer motorbike is definitely upscale from a pushbike, absolutely.

If you're thinking of large-scale shtf and plan to move to Wales or Scotland because of that, can I just run it past you that, if you're English, you could be in problems ... Since you're in your early 20s, you won't remember it, but back in the 60s and 70s, the Welsh were burning English (second) homes in Wales. And several English *and* Scottish friends have commented on the atmosphere in Scotland right now. A few of the English friends are of Asian origin, but their accents are English, and that was enough. They were a bit shaken.

Thank you for the puppy pictures! She's adorable

[unsure]

have you considered how vulnerable you would be on any kind of bike . all well timed 3x2 to the chest and your off and out cold , then theres the old wire across the road trick , best to stay home if you can .

[Kellankelloggs]

Ah I didn't know the cross-border tensions were that bad, thanks... seems a bit medieval, we've shared these lands for centuries.

Yeah vulnerability is a major downside to bikes, but I think if I had to bug out, I'd rather be making constant progress while vulnerable, than stuck in a car on the motorway while relatively safer =]