Boil in the Bag Rice

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Re: Boil in the Bag Rice

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Pasta , stores forever (ish) and only takes 8/9 mins to cook , pennies from tesco etc,,,,,, 20p http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/ ... =258289625


Keeps well :D , was making a moussaka last week but had miss calculated the amount of aubergine I needed, but had some lasagne pasta sheets in the back of the cupboard , BBE 2009 :o and they had been opened a few years back :shock: and very nice it was too :D


Put the rest back in the cupboard for 2021 :D


http://www.stilltasty.com/searchitems/search/pasta
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Re: Boil in the Bag Rice

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ForgeCorvus wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacillus_cereus

From what I remember, the rice in retort pouches is cooked at high temperatures ( in a massive pressure-cooker) and is then flash cooled so it spends only a few seconds in the temperature danger-zone.
I'm not sure when its sealed in the pouches though.

These processes are not something you can replicate in the home.
Not sure I totally agree with that. I'm pretty sure that if pre-cooked rice was vacuum sealed in pouches and then heated in a pressure cooker it would probably keep in fairly good condition for quite a while. After all, it's just pressure canning in a sealed plastic membrane rather than a glass jar or a can :)
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tanstaafl wrote:Pasta , stores forever (ish) and only takes 8/9 mins to cook , pennies from tesco etc,,,,,, 20p http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/ ... =258289625


Keeps well :D , was making a moussaka last week but had miss calculated the amount of aubergine I needed, but had some lasagne pasta sheets in the back of the cupboard , BBE 2009 :o and they had been opened a few years back :shock: and very nice it was too :D


Put the rest back in the cupboard for 2021 :D


http://www.stilltasty.com/searchitems/search/pasta
Cheers, breaking down my pasta stock into smaller mylar pouches is one of this weekends tasks.
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Re: Boil in the Bag Rice

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tanstaafl wrote:Pasta , stores forever (ish) and only takes 8/9 mins to cook , pennies from tesco etc,,,,,, 20p http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/ ... =258289625


Keeps well :D , was making a moussaka last week but had miss calculated the amount of aubergine I needed, but had some lasagne pasta sheets in the back of the cupboard , BBE 2009 :o and they had been opened a few years back :shock: and very nice it was too :D


Put the rest back in the cupboard for 2021 :D


http://www.stilltasty.com/searchitems/search/pasta
Takes a lot of fuel to boil the water required to cook pasta. Or rice, for that matter, although you can reduce cooking time for rice by soaking it beforehand.
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tirawa wrote:
ForgeCorvus wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacillus_cereus

From what I remember, the rice in retort pouches is cooked at high temperatures ( in a massive pressure-cooker) and is then flash cooled so it spends only a few seconds in the temperature danger-zone.
I'm not sure when its sealed in the pouches though.

These processes are not something you can replicate in the home.
Not sure I totally agree with that. I'm pretty sure that if pre-cooked rice was vacuum sealed in pouches and then heated in a pressure cooker it would probably keep in fairly good condition for quite a while. After all, it's just pressure canning in a sealed plastic membrane rather than a glass jar or a can :)

Rice (and pasta) is not on the approved pressure canning list. I would not contemplate storing cooked at home rice, far too risky, I think it's because of the density of it being vacuum sealed, you can't guarantee that the very centre has been reached. This is also why you don't can mashed potatoes or mashed pumpkin etc etc.
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http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions ... ure-canned

Hope this link helps answer why you can't home can certain foods.
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Decaff wrote:http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions ... ure-canned

Hope this link helps answer why you can't home can certain foods.
Thanks for that link Decaff and after reading through it I think it points to an excellent solution to the original question... Dehydration. Cooked rice can be dried in a food dehydrator, which will reduce the re-cooking time to a few minutes. And of course, as long as the pre-cooked rice is completely dehydrated it should keep quite well in vacuum sealed packs :D

http://www.backpackingchef.com/dehydrating-rice.html

http://www.trailcooking.com/dehydrating ... ta-grains/
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tirawa wrote:
Decaff wrote:http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions ... ure-canned

Hope this link helps answer why you can't home can certain foods.
Thanks for that link Decaff and after reading through it I think it points to an excellent solution to the original question... Dehydration. Cooked rice can be dried in a food dehydrator, which will reduce the re-cooking time to a few minutes. And of course, as long as the pre-cooked rice is completely dehydrated it should keep quite well in vacuum sealed packs :D

http://www.backpackingchef.com/dehydrating-rice.html

http://www.trailcooking.com/dehydrating ... ta-grains/
That sounds like a "job done, file it" to me then! :mrgreen: glad it helped.
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As I said at the start of the thread. Pasta and rice, when cooked, needs to be eaten. If not cooled and refrigerated properly it will be infected by Bacillus Cereus. Cereus as in Cereal. And it is Serious. 5O% will be hospitalised and the other 50% will die. Vac packing or bagging in Mylar will not preserve it any further. How do I know? In the food industry since God was a lad. :lol:

Keep it dried. Cook it when you need it. Like we always have done.
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Re: Boil in the Bag Rice

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Smudge wrote:
Lidl do a couple of different rices, I just bought a egg fried rice for 49p to trial.
I tired the lidl egg fried rice, opened the packet it smelled rancid, I cooked it it still smelled rancid I just couldn't bring myself to eat it.................. the dogs enjoyed it though.

Note to self don't buy that again.
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