y,all like scotland what about....

[Eatmoreveg]

HI, Ive read alot of posts and registed but been busy.. I see a lot of you live and like Scotland for a retreat but how about southan Ireland my parents had a cottage there in the 80s the weather is milder in the winter its just wet and I think there is more land to population Im looking at ruins without roofs with 1 or perhaps 2 acres 80.000 euros Scotland seems dearer from what little reserch Ive done , the way I figure it moving to the countryside after an event means you are the zombie invader instead of the local defender,isnt it better to go before and have the infrastuture in place
like solar panels, windmill, well bored, experience with bees , pigs etc sounds great personally Im pushed for time <not with work Im 49 and canot see me living for more than 20 years> will oil last that long? any thoughts people? regards

[Red Doe]

I think the trouble is, not everyone can afford to move to Ireland (or anywhere else for that matter) beforehand, and many simply don`t want to, having work, families etc in place right now.
I agree that Scotland is pretty expensive, don`t know about other areas of the British Isles but I wouldn`t imagine actual inflation or money would be a concern in a SHTF scenario.

[diamond lil]

I'm half Irish, my mothers family were from Galway. I've had a few brilliant holidays over there, and I personally would move in a minute. Is the only country apart from Scotland where I would feel at home instantly. I think with the way things are going you might pick up a fixer-upper in the west of Ireland very cheap, and the weather yes is a hell of a lot milder... But the locals don't like the English, so you're effectively moving into hostile territory and in a shit situation you need all the friends you can get.
In the Aran islands they still use tiny tiny fields, just enough for one cow and 6 sheep, and they burn peat. The fishing is good - but it might be a hard life for an incomer though.

[lisaloolibell]

ive actually considered a move to southern ireland dont know very much about it thought needs more research I think.

[Carrot Cruncher]

I have always thought about France, it's nearer to me and most of my relatives than scotland or ireland, and still has relatively cheap housing.....and I can understand the natives better

[diamond lil]

Yur not wrong there CC. Try going to Cork !! Chinese would easier !

[Dutchie Delta]

Carrot Cruncher, France is pretty expensive. You'd be hard pressed to find something affordable there me thinks.
Isn't the situation so that in Ireland a lot of property is up for grabs now? With the crisis people no longer able to afford their second home and such?

[diamond lil]

Yes things are bad in Ireland. Very high unemployment .

[Red Doe]

Ok, at the risk of being yelled at here...can I just play Devil`s Advocate a wee bit...?
Like in Scotland, Ireland has it`s troubles economically (got relatives in Donegal) and I have seen first hand here, in rural Highlands, that, no matter how nice incomers from doon sooth are and can be, and no matter how determined they are not to form committees from the getgo and try and rearrange local politics and culture into a version of the place they left, most if not all incomers are viewed by locals with distrust and in many cases, outright dislike.
This is because (rightly or wrongly) they resent the fact an `outsider` can afford to buy housing whereas their own kids can`t get a rung on the ladder to buy or rent in the area they were born in.
They also resent the seeming interference of incomers who often do try and change things once they get there...seen it myself with committees being formed where none existed (or were needed or desired) before and village events, for example, becoming less informal Highland cultural get togethers and more and more like a soiree around the duck pond of middle England.
Now, please don`t jump on me all at once, but surely I can`t be the only one who`s noticed this happening?
Not saying it`s right or wrong, just that it does happen.
So before folks think of moving to Ireland or anywhere rural, they might want to be forewarned.

[Dutchie Delta]

Red Doe, that's in most rural affordable places the case. Only natural for people to not be happy with the newcomers.
So... brave the natives or stay in town?
Me braves the natives.